Block & Order

In this episode of Block & Order, Kyle and Moish welcome Mark DiMichael, Partner at Citrin Cooperman in the Valuation and Forensic Services Group and founder of the firm’s Digital Assets practice, for a conversation on crypto forensics and blockchain investigations. Mark explains how forensic accountants trace cryptocurrency across wallets, exchanges, and the blockchain to uncover hidden assets in cases like divorce disputes, fraud, and litigation. The discussion also explores how investigators translate complex blockchain activity for courts and how evolving regulations and IRS reporting requirements are shaping the future of crypto investigations.

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Please note that this show is meant for informational and entertainment purposes only. This is not legal advice. Please hire your own attorney. The hosts or guests appearing on Block and Order may hold cryptocurrency, NFTs, or other digital assets from companies mentioned during our programming. This possession of digital assets does not constitute a professional endorsement, legal advice, or financial advice. Listeners are encouraged to consult with their own legal and financial advisors for personalized guidance in the blockchain and cryptocurrency space.

In this episode of Block & Order, Kyle and Moish welcome Ben Gray, Chief Legal Officer at Kraken, for a deep dive into the legal, regulatory, and technological challenges facing major crypto exchanges today. Ben shares insights on how Kraken navigates global regulatory frameworks, adapting to new legislation like the Clarity Act and GENIUS Act, and how Kraken embraces AI to optimize legal and compliance operations, and collaborates with industry peers—even competitors—for better policy outcomes. The discussion highlights real-world asset tokenization, harmonization across international markets, DeFi and the transformative role of AI in legal work and compliance. 

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In this episode of Block & Order, Kyle and Moish are joined by Steven Baum, Managing Director at CBIZ and co-leader of its Digital Assets & Blockchain practice, to unpack crypto auditing and financial reporting. Steven explains why blockchain assets may actually be easier to audit than cash and how crypto companies are maturing into IPO-ready businesses. The conversation covers regulatory uncertainty, stablecoins, DeFi infrastructure, digital asset treasuries, and the growing role of AI in compliance.

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In this episode, Kyle and Moish sit down with Carlo D'Angelo, defense attorney turned stablecoin consultant, to explore stablecoins and how the GENIUS Act is reshaping payments, banking, and U.S. financial leadership. Carlo explains why stablecoins may succeed where crypto previously stalled, how treasury-backed digital dollars could strengthen the dollar globally, and why banks must adapt—or risk irrelevance. Tune in for sharp insights on compliance, innovation, and the next chapter for digital assets.

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In this episode, Kyle and Moish talk with Jennie Levin, the Chief Legal and Operating Officer of the Algorand Foundation, about the evolving regulatory climate that is reshaping tokenization, stablecoins, and institutional adoption. Jennie explains how Algorand’s architecture supports real-world assets and global payments, why the foundation is re-embracing the U.S. market, and how builders can navigate uncertainty. She also shares how her former life as a federal prosecutor informs her approach to compliance, risk, and responsible growth in crypto.

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In this Election Day edition of Block and Order, Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz kick off with SEC Chair Atkins’ proposed “innovation exemption,” a sandbox-style framework meant to move crypto oversight from ad hoc enforcement to formal rulemaking—now stalled amid the government shutdown. They unpack Kalshi’s lawsuit against New York’s Gaming Commission and what it reveals about the ongoing tension between state regulators and the CFTC’s federal preemption authority.
 
Kyle and Moish also discuss Valve’s Counter-Strike 2 update that erased roughly $2 billion from its in-game skin economy, Reddit’s DMCA anti-circumvention case targeting Perplexity and data-scraping proxies, "Bitcoin Jesus", the CZ pardon, and more. Tune in now on Block & Order!

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In this episode of Block and Order, Kyle and Moish chat with valuation expert Neil Thakur of Teknos Associates to unpack the art—and science—of figuring out crypto value. Neil shares what it’s like helping projects all over the world figure out what their digital assets are worth, from the early days with Ripple to the rise of big institutions in the space, and how things like regulation, tax, and offshoring play into what assets are really worth. They also swap stories about navigating U.S. and offshore setups, untangle the challenges of putting a number on things like IP and stablecoins, share thoughts on where the industry is headed next, and why the global side of crypto still matters.

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Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz kick off this episode of Block and Order with a look at the growing rivalry between the SEC and CFTC, and what their latest moves could mean for the crypto industry and everyone building in it. They dig into NASDAQ’s headline-making push for tokenized stocks, unpack what tokenization really means, and discuss whether it’s the next big thing or just the latest buzzword.
 
The conversation also covers the OCC’s new efforts to keep politics out of banking, and how Washington’s legislative gridlock is stalling much-needed clarity for digital assets. Kyle and Moish wrap things up by diving into the billion-dollar AI copyright lawsuit rocking the publishing world, reflecting on what it means for creators and the future of tech.

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We're back! Hosts Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz break down the SEC’s bold Project Crypto speech and what it means for U.S. blockchain leadership, examine the surprising end of the SEC vs. Ripple case, and discuss what’s next now that legal clarity is (sort of) here. The duo also unpacks the latest court decision on NFT trademarks (Yuga Labs v. Ryder Ripps), debates Trump’s push to allow crypto in 401(k)s, and explores the ethical and technical dilemmas behind YouTube’s new AI age detection. Plus, they tackle the headline-making reversal in the OpenSea insider trading saga with Nathaniel Chastain...

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Kyle Lawrence and Moish Peltz kick off this episode of Block and Order by discussing Bitcoin’s historic run to new highs and the persistent “it’s too expensive” sentiment. They also tackle Robinhood’s controversial tokenized stocks and OpenAI’s denial of association with its stock tokens, highlighting the challenges of clear labeling in digital asset markets and its importance for investors.

The conversation moves to Senator Cynthia Lummis’s crypto tax bill, which promises clarity for traders, as well as the new Coinbase and Perplexity AI partnership that could revolutionize real-time crypto analytics. Kyle and Moish also explore the latest in the Tornado Cash legal case and the Celsius Network’s billion-dollar legal battle with Tether, offering insights into how U.S. bankruptcy law impacts global crypto players.

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