In hour two, John and Gordy finally talk about Trump hush money trial, where he has subverted his gag order with surrogates. They cover the bizarre story from Washington where 3 Bob Fergusons are running for Governor, two of which are fake candidates. With more on the "MAGAs say the darndest things" train, we hear from Mark Robinson, candidate for North Carolina Governor who says women shouldn't vote. Later, they welcome founder and director of Blue Jean Nation Mike McCabe to the mic, discussing the rural-urban divide, rural internet access, changes in agriculture, rural healthcare, and more.

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