This is an episode of Jason Sowell's Boldly Going Podcast (Jason was the guest on Ep 34 here) that Jon was on about a year ago. 

"An encouraging episode with Jon Dengler, Executive Director of The Well Incorporated and Host of The Work Ethic Podcast. Get some insight on his philosophy of shared work, how he defines freedom, and the wealth of the poor."

If you enjoy this episode and want to hear more from Jason then go to

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/boldly-going-with-jason-sowell/id1077453407