Bonefish

Christian and Justin sit down with record producer and Animal Collective collaborator Rusty Santos to discuss his roles in creating the albums Sung Tongs, Person Pitch, Buoys, and others, as well as his new solo record New Wave in California.

Also discussed: Moving to New York and meeting Dave, live sound engineering mishaps, Dawn of Midi, DJ Rashad, and Owen Pallet. 

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The bonefish boys talk about the sudden mysterious appearance of the newest Animal Collective song "Defeat." 

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This week Christian and Justin venture slightly off the beaten path with a discussion of the modern state of 'psychedelic' music—and what that term even means in a modern context—through the lens of Darkside's new album "Live at Spiral House." We look at the newly-minted trio's role in the genre, and how they compare to Animal Collective and other modern "psych" bands. 

Also discussed: some Ark followup, Water From Your Eyes, Palm, jam bands, Grimes' new tattoo and more. 

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ARK, the first Animal Collective release with all four members, turns 20 this month. Justin and Christian look back on this wild and claustrophobic record that served as a bookend to an era for the group.

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This week, we have the honor of speaking with Animal Collective founder Dave Portner, aka Avey Tare. Christian and Justin chat with Dave about the newly released remastered version of the band's debut album, Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished. Other topics include the band's early days in NYC, working at Other Music, knife hits, bus rides to Baltimore, artificial intelligence, upcoming AnCo releases, and much more!

Produced by Christian Koons. Music by Animal Collective, Christian Koons, and Justin Kloczko. Special thanks to Stones Throw, Collin Davis, and Kenny Becker.

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This week we're digging into the latest Panda Bear album, his Sonic Boom collab RESET. Is it Person Pitch Pt 2? Is it a pandemic album? What are the chances of us doing a brand collab with Bonefish Grill? Can directors make good remixes? All that and more await within. 

**ALSO: Bonefish pod meetup in LA on Sat 5/13 for the Avey Tare show. For more details find us on instagram @bonefishpod** 

Original music for this week's episode by Justin and Christian.

Welcome back.. to Bonefish. We're happy you're here. We'd like to see you often, but we don't *need* to see you often... That's right, this week do our dance upon the plains, shake our shoulders, and push ourselves down into the grains of the all time AC classic "Feels."

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For the first ever episode of Bonefish, head zoners Christian and Justin begin this journey by discussing Animal Collective's 11th studio album, Time Skiffs. 

Also mentioned: how we got into AnCo, the hurdy gurdy, geriatric millenials, and the ceaseless march of time.