Wherein I sit down to talk all things New Zealand Rugby with famed author, Jamie Wall. We talk about his incredible books, as well as the past, present and future of rugby!

The article referenced was here:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/496240/all-blacks-fly-in-under-the-radar-and-that-s-how-they-like-it

His website, where you can purchase all his great books, is here:

https://www.jamiewallrugby.com/

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