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In our latest piece of bonus content, senior producer James Levine sits down with historian and author Honor Cargill-Martin to discuss the violent paranoia of Roman power politics, the personalities that dominated that world, and how certain figures' legacies are able to last for millennia.

Honor Cargill-Martin is a historian and author who studied Classical Archaeology and Ancient History at the University of Oxford, where she earned her masters degree with Distinction in Greek and Roman History. She completed a second masters in the History of Art at the Courtauld Institute in London, where she was awarded a Distinction for work focusing on the art of the Italian - and especially the Venetian - Renaissance. Her first non-fiction book Messalina: A Story of Empire, Slander and Adultery, telling the story of the 1st century AD Roman empress Messalina was published in 2023 to critical acclaim.

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