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As a kid at home reading National Geographic, Jodi Biers found an article about smoke jumpers – women who jumped out of helicopters to fight wildfires. Jodi knew that she’d found her calling. But when her firefighting crew suffers a catastrophe, Jodi’s life spun out of control and she ended up in prison, and – she thought – stripped of her firefighting role forever.

Special Guest Stephanie Foo, author of, “What My Bones Know: A memoir of Healing from Complex PTSD,” joins us in the studio to talk about interviewing people in traumatic environments.

This episode mentions suicide. Please take care while listening.

The National Suicide Prevention Hotline can be reached at 988 or by visting 988Lifeline.org 

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