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In the first “book club” episode, Andy, Anthony, and Parker talk about The Beauty of Games by Frank Lantz. The book sets out to defend the thesis that games are artistic works (or, more descriptively, “aesthetic works”) worth the same level of appreciation as other art forms and teach sophisticated, systems-thinking. After reading the book, our hosts talk about what they took away from the book and some aspects they were a little more critical of. Thank you to the listeners who joined the book club and send in their own takes!
Cards mentioned in this episode.
Discussed in this episode:
Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction
4:13 - What is a book club, anyway?
5:51 - Summary of The Beauty of Games
9:17 - Do we need to defend the position that games are meaningful?
14:02 - Andy’s Two Main Criticisms of The Beauty of Games
17:07 - Games as an aesthetic experience
21:34 - Gamer Knowledge™️
23:31 - The Reasons for Doubt and Frank’s rebuttal to them
31:36 - Unpacking the conclusion of The Beauty of Games
41:19 - Ought we blame the beneficiaries of inequitable systems?
45:07 - How games crystalize satisfying action, and what satisfying actions does Magic capture?
58:17 - Why do we as Cube designers put so much knowledge between our players and the satisfying experiences Magic offers?
1:06:50 - Listener Submitted Clips
Check us out on Twitch and YouTube for paper Cube gameplay.
You can find the hosts’ Cubes on Cube Cobra:
If want us to do a pack 1, pick 1 from your cube submit it on our website. You can find both your hosts in the MTG Cube Talk Discord. Send in questions to the show at [email protected] or our p.o. box:
Lucky Paper
PO Box 4855
Baltimore, MD 21211
If you’d like to show your support for the show, please leave us a review on iTunes or wherever you listen.
Musical production by DJ James Nasty.
By Andy Mangold and Anthony Mattox4.6
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In the first “book club” episode, Andy, Anthony, and Parker talk about The Beauty of Games by Frank Lantz. The book sets out to defend the thesis that games are artistic works (or, more descriptively, “aesthetic works”) worth the same level of appreciation as other art forms and teach sophisticated, systems-thinking. After reading the book, our hosts talk about what they took away from the book and some aspects they were a little more critical of. Thank you to the listeners who joined the book club and send in their own takes!
Cards mentioned in this episode.
Discussed in this episode:
Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction
4:13 - What is a book club, anyway?
5:51 - Summary of The Beauty of Games
9:17 - Do we need to defend the position that games are meaningful?
14:02 - Andy’s Two Main Criticisms of The Beauty of Games
17:07 - Games as an aesthetic experience
21:34 - Gamer Knowledge™️
23:31 - The Reasons for Doubt and Frank’s rebuttal to them
31:36 - Unpacking the conclusion of The Beauty of Games
41:19 - Ought we blame the beneficiaries of inequitable systems?
45:07 - How games crystalize satisfying action, and what satisfying actions does Magic capture?
58:17 - Why do we as Cube designers put so much knowledge between our players and the satisfying experiences Magic offers?
1:06:50 - Listener Submitted Clips
Check us out on Twitch and YouTube for paper Cube gameplay.
You can find the hosts’ Cubes on Cube Cobra:
If want us to do a pack 1, pick 1 from your cube submit it on our website. You can find both your hosts in the MTG Cube Talk Discord. Send in questions to the show at [email protected] or our p.o. box:
Lucky Paper
PO Box 4855
Baltimore, MD 21211
If you’d like to show your support for the show, please leave us a review on iTunes or wherever you listen.
Musical production by DJ James Nasty.

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