In this episode of the Business of Laravel Podcast, Matt Stauffer sits down with Jon Behr, VP of Engineering at FM, to discuss his journey into the company and FM's use of Laravel. FM operates three major brands—Musicbed, Film Supply, and Stills—which license music, provide film clips, and sell premium stock photography. John shares insights into the ground-up rewrite of the Musicbed app using Laravel, highlighting the importance of choosing "boring technology" to ensure stability. They also explore topics like scalability, clear communication within engineering teams, and the intricacies of hiring and firing developers.

• Matt Stauffer Twitter
• Tighten Website
• Jon Behr Twitter
• Jon Behr LinkedIn 
• FM Website
• Musicbed
• Filmsupply
• Choose Boring Technology Blog Post
• Becoming an Effective Software Engineering Manager Book
• Radical Candor Book
• FM Careers Page

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Editing and transcription sponsored by Tighten.