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  • Espionage and Coffee: The Day the FBI Came Knocking S2, E23

    This podcast can be found on Yergz Radio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

    In this gripping episode, Yergz and Jane Stahl delve into the intense world of undercover operations and counter-espionage. Yergz recounts a nerve-wracking experience where he was unexpectedly summoned by his superiors due to an FBI investigation. The story unfolds with suspense as Yergz learns that his personal and work phone numbers were linked to a person under FBI scrutiny. The episode explores the complexities of intelligence work, including interactions with foreign agents and the delicate balance of maintaining professional relationships. Yergz also shares insights into his career trajectory, the challenges of working in the Secret Service, and his eventual decision to retire. This episode offers a fascinating peek into the high-stakes environment of national security and the personal sacrifices involved.

    0:01 Introduction and Setup
    0:50 The Call to the ASAC's Office
    2:58 FBI Investigation Revelation
    3:47 Meeting with the Special Agent in Charge
    5:07 Understanding the Intelligence Community
    6:35 The Chief of Station
    7:01 Further Interactions and Transfer
    9:00 Retirement and Personal Life
    11:21 Career Reflections and Leadership
    13:19 Administrative Role and COVID-19
    16:30 Retirement Decision
    16:57 Conclusion and Teaser for Next Episode

    Introduction
    - Yergz and Jane Stahl dive into an intriguing story from Yergz's career.
    - Yergz recounts a surprising call to the ASAIC's office and the ensuing events.
    The Unexpected Call
    - Yergz describes being summoned to the ASAIC's office by a new supervisor.
    - Explanation of SAIC (Special Agent in Charge) and ASAIC (Assistant Special Agent in Charge) roles.
    The FBI Investigation
    - Yergz learns that the FBI is investigating someone he had dinner with.
    - The FBI's interest in Yergz's work and personal phone numbers.
    - Instructions from his bosses on how to handle potential FBI contact.
    Meeting with the FBI
    - The formal meeting setup with the FBI and the female Special Agent in Charge.
    - Clarification of Yergz's role and the reason for his phone numbers being flagged.
    Intelligence Community Insights
    - Discussion on the roles of intelligence officers and their affiliations with embassies.
    - The revelation that the person under investigation was a chief of station for a foreign country's intelligence.
    Navigating Diplomatic Relations
    - Yergz's continued interactions with the foreign intelligence officer.
    - The delicate balance of maintaining professional relationships while under scrutiny.
    Personal Reflections and Career Moves
    - Yergz's transfer to LA and the personal reasons behind it.
    - Challenges faced in the gay community and the impact on personal relationships.
    - Career transitions and the decision to move to LA despite personal setbacks.
    Leadership and Mentorship
    - Yergz's approach to leadership without needing a formal title.
    - The importance of on-the-job training and mentorship in his career.
    - Efforts to mentor and support new agents in LA.
    Administrative Roles and COVID-19 Management
    - Yergz's role in managing COVID-19 supplies and equipment in the office.
    - Reflections on the administrative responsibilities and their impact on his career satisfaction.
    Retirement Decision
    - The factors leading to Yergz's decision to retire in November 2021.
    - The benefits and considerations of early retirement from the Secret Service.

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    19 min
  • The Spy Who Couldn't Stay: A Secret Service Agent's Journey S2, E22

    This podcast can be found on Yergz Radio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts

    In this gripping episode, Yergz and Jane Stahl delve into the harrowing experiences of Yergz, a former undercover agent, who faced multiple investigations for his sexual orientation during the Trump administration. Yergz recounts his time infiltrating fraud networks and the challenges of maintaining his cover, including a close call with a sexual chat that jeopardized his career. The episode also explores the complexities of working undercover, the impact of political climates on investigations, and the personal toll of being targeted for one's identity. Yergz's story is a compelling look at the intersection of personal and professional struggles in high-stakes Washington.


    0:01 Introduction and Background

    0:33 Investigations and Legal Issues

    1:22 Undercover Operations

    2:08 Encounter with Dutch Marines

    3:10 Training and Challenges

    4:27 Consequences and Reassignment

    5:20 Return to Field Office

    7:06 New Assignments and Protection Role

    8:41 Lead Advance Assignment

    10:59 Building Relationships

    12:31 Suspicious Encounter

    14:16 Conclusion and Teaser for Next Episode

    Introduction
    - Hosts Yergz and Jane Stahl dive into a gripping discussion about the complexities and personal challenges faced during undercover operations.
    - Yergz shares his personal experiences and the impact of policy changes on his career.
    Investigations and Policy Changes
    - Yergz recounts being investigated multiple times during the Trump administration for his sexual orientation.
    - Discussion on the removal of LGBT protections through executive orders and its implications.
    Undercover Operations and Training
    - Yergz describes his year-long undercover assignment in San Francisco, drawing parallels to CIA operations.
    - Insights into the training received from industry experts on maintaining undercover identities and the risks involved.
    Challenges of Being Gay in the Military
    - A poignant story about a Dutch Marine team, highlighting the acceptance and camaraderie within their unit despite sexual orientation.
    - Contrasts with the challenges faced by LGBT service members in the U.S. military.
    Compromised Operations and Consequences
    - Yergz shares a critical mistake involving personal chats on a work computer, leading to his removal from an undercover project.
    - The fallout from this incident and the loss of valuable intelligence work.
    Transition to Protective Intelligence
    - After the undercover assignment, Yergz transitions to working in the field office and later to protective intelligence.
    - The importance of threat analysis and preparation for high-level protection assignments.
    Prestigious Assignments and Diplomatic Relations
    - Yergz's experience leading an advance team for a foreign country's visit, emphasizing the importance of building strong diplomatic relationships.
    - Anecdotes about social interactions with embassy staff and the delicate balance of professionalism and personal rapport.
    A Close Call with Espionage
    - A suspenseful account of a dinner with a foreign diplomat that left Yergz feeling like he was about to be pitched for espionage.
    - The mysterious disappearance of the diplomat and the potential presence of a safe house.
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    18 min
  • Inside the Secret Service: Yergz's Untold Stories S2, E21

    This podcast can be found on Yergz Radio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

    In this gripping episode, hosts Yergz and Jane Stahl delve into the life and career of a former Secret Service agent. The conversation covers a range of topics, from the agent's experiences in high-stakes security situations to the internal politics and challenges faced within the Secret Service. The agent shares personal anecdotes, including the intense security measures taken during 9/11 and the Capitol riots, as well as the complexities of protecting high-profile figures like Bill and Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. The discussion also touches on the agent's struggles with being a closeted gay man in a predominantly conservative and politically charged environment, revealing the personal and professional repercussions of his sexuality. This episode offers a rare, behind-the-scenes look at the Secret Service, highlighting both the heroism and the human struggles of those who serve.


    0:01 - Introduction and Setup

    0:10 - Self-Destructive Urge Discussion

    1:20 - Lifeguard and Bodyguard Analogy

    3:45 - Secret Service Anecdotes

    4:22 - January 6th and Mike Pence

    5:11 - Secret Service Commendations

    6:11 - Challenges in the Secret Service

    7:02 - Politics and Competence in the Secret Service

    9:51 - Famous and Powerful People

    11:15 - Disenchantment with Politicians

    13:02 - Being Gay in the Secret Service

    15:06 - Investigations and Discrimination

    19:05 - Conclusion and Teaser for Next Episode

    Self-Destructive Urges and Mental Health- Yergz addresses a question about self-destructive urges and clarifies his stance on mental health, sharing personal experiences and insights from therapy.

    Lifeguard Analogy and Protection Philosophy- Yergz draws an analogy between lifeguarding and bodyguarding, emphasizing the importance of proactive measures in protection roles.

    Power Dynamics in Presidential Security- Discussion on the power dynamics within the Secret Service, highlighting the significant influence of the head of the president's security detail, such as George W. Bush's first pitch at Yankee Stadium post-9/11 and decision-making regarding his security.

    January 6th and Mike Pence's Decision- Brief discussion on the events of January 6th and Vice President Mike Pence's refusal to get into the limo, touching on classified information and security protocols.

    Career Reflections and Challenges- Yergz reflects on his career, sharing stories about the hardest parts, including political dynamics and dealing with unqualified personnel in critical roles.

    Political Correctness and Competence- Discussion on the impact of political correctness on the competence of the Secret Service workforce.

    Insights on the Famous and Powerful- Yergz provides insights into the personalities of various political figures, including George W. Bush, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Dick Cheney. Discussion on the disillusionment with certain politicians, particularly those who were not supportive of the gay community despite being part of it.

    Personal Struggles and Being Outed- Yergz shares his personal experience of being outed as gay within the Secret Service and the subsequent challenges he faced. Discussion on the impact of being outed on his career and mental health, including investigations and political maneuvering.

    Investigations and Legal Battles- Yergz recounts multiple investigations into his sexuality and the legal battles he faced as a result.

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    21 min
  • Behind the Mask: Yergz on Baseball Politics and Personal Identity S2, E20

    This podcast can be found on Yergz Radio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

    In this episode, hosts Yergz and Jane Stahl delve into the tumultuous career journey of Yergz, who transitioned from umpiring in various baseball leagues to pursuing a career in law enforcement and bodyguard work. Yergz shares candid stories about the challenges and politics he faced in the Shenandoah Valley Baseball League and the Texas Louisiana League, including being set up to fail and dealing with rejections. He reflects on how these experiences shaped his resilience and decision to move into law enforcement. The conversation also touches on Yergz's interest in bodyguard work, inspired by movies like "In the Line of Fire" and "The Bodyguard," and his innate calling to protect others. This episode offers a raw and insightful look into the personal and professional struggles that led Yergz to his current path.

    0:01 Introduction and Early Career
    0:20 Umpire School and Shenandoah Valley Baseball League
    0:56 Wooden Bats and Scouting Opportunities
    1:09 Texas Louisiana League and Political Challenges
    1:51 Ejections and Frustrations
    2:06 Politics in Major League Baseball
    3:11 Career Change and Law Enforcement
    3:23 Rehoboth Beach and Self-Reflection
    4:39 Sexuality and Career Impact
    5:09 Returning to Shenandoah Valley League
    6:13 Handling Rejections and Moving Forward
    7:42 Self-Confidence and Career Decisions
    10:25 Transition to Bodyguard Work
    11:10 Interest in Law Enforcement
    12:12 Calling and Passion for Protection
    12:30 Training and Mindset
    14:52 Self-Destructive Urge
    15:22 Conclusion and Teaser for Next Episode

    Behind the Mask: Yergz on Baseball Politics and Personal Identity
    Show Notes:
    Welcome and Introduction
    - Yergz and Jane Stahl kick off the episode with a light-hearted introduction.


    The Umpiring Journey
    - Yergz discusses his initial foray into umpiring after attending umpire school.
    - Insight into the Shenandoah Valley Baseball League and the use of wooden bats.
    - The challenges and politics faced in the Texas Louisiana League.
    - The impact of being paired with a politically connected partner and the resulting career obstacles.


    Facing Rejection and Career Setbacks
    - Yergz recounts being fired from the Shenandoah Valley League and the emotional impact.
    - The role of politics in professional umpiring and its effect on career progression.
    - Personal reflections on dealing with rejection and maintaining self-confidence.


    Transition to Law Enforcement and Bodyguard Work
    - The decision to leave umpiring and explore new career paths.
    - Initial jobs and the realization of not fitting into certain roles, such as working at a grocery store.
    - The pivotal moment of looking up limousine companies as a step towards bodyguard work.


    Inspiration and Calling
    - Yergz's lifelong interest in law enforcement and protection work.
    - Influences from movies like "In the Line of Fire" and "The Bodyguard."
    - The concept of certain careers being a calling, similar to teaching or umpiring.


    Training and Mindset for Protection Work
    - Anecdotes from a security seminar and the intense training involved in bodyguard work.
    - The unique mindset required for protection roles and the willingness to put oneself in harm's way.
    Resources Mentioned:
    - Book: "Behind the Mask" by Dave Pallone
    - Movies: "In the Line of Fire," "The Bodyguard"
    Key Words:

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    17 min
  • Pursuing Passion: Yergz on Officiating, Service, Creativity and Entrepreneurship S2, E19

    All podcast episodes can be found in Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also available on Yergz Radio, Rainbow Radio, or wherever you get your internet radio stations.

    In this episode of "Both Sides Now," hosts Jane Stahl and Yergz delve into Yergz's multifaceted life journey, exploring his early years in a gifted program in school, his creative pursuits, and his unique career path. Yergz shares anecdotes from his time as a baseball umpire and ice hockey referee, starting from a young age and earning significant money while still in school. The conversation touches on the challenges and perceptions he faced from peers and the decisions that shaped his career, including a pivotal moment at umpire school. Yergz also discusses his current ventures in radio and app development, highlighting his continuous drive for creativity and innovation.

    00:00:07: Introduction and Overview
    00:02:11: Early Education and Gifted Program
    00:04:03: Early Jobs and Creativity
    00:07:24: Current Projects and Creativity
    00:10:26: Impact of Refereeing on School Life
    00:13:06: Pursuing Umpiring Professionally
    00:15:43: Umpire School and Minor League Baseball
    00:17:27: Reflection and Regrets
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    19 min
  • Cinema and Society: Tackling Tough Topics with Jane and Yergz S2, E18

    Every podcast episode is always available on Spotify and Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, as well as Yergz Radio.

    In this episode, Jane and Yergz engage in a candid discussion about political preferences and the perceived impacts of presidential policies on the economy. They express their disillusionment with the current political choices, reflecting on how past administrations have influenced economic conditions. The conversation then shifts to a lighter note as they discuss recent horror movies they've watched, providing recommendations to the listeners. Additionally, the episode delves into the technological aspects of podcasting, exploring new tools that streamline the podcasting process, including AI-driven content creation and episode management platforms. This blend of political commentary, personal entertainment preferences, and podcasting technology insights offers a diverse range of topics to the listeners.

    00:00:00 - Introduction and Political Discussion
    00:03:09 - Speaker A's Disappointment in Political Choices
    00:04:17 - Transition to Movie Recommendations
    00:05:11 - Discussion on Movie Availability and Theater Times
    00:06:01 - Closing Remarks and Introduction to Cirrus Streaming
    00:07:46 - Explanation of Flow Send Platform
    00:09:44 - Benefits of Using Flow Send for Podcasting
    00:11:04 - Discussion on the Title and Content Generation Features
    00:13:18 - Clarification on Spotify and Riverside Platforms
    00:15:06 - Overview of AI Features in Content Creation
    00:17:44 - Potential Usefulness for Other Podcasters
    00:19:04 - Personal Updates and Closing Remarks
    Welcome and Introduction
    - Hosts Jane Stahl and Yergz kick off the episode with a continuation of their discussion, setting the stage for a deep dive into various topics including political opinions, movie recommendations, and technological advancements in podcasting.
    Political Discussion
    - Jane and Yergz discuss their perspectives on the current political climate, comparing the administrations of former President Trump and President Biden. They explore the impact of previous administrations on current economic conditions and express their personal views on the upcoming elections.
    Movie Recommendations
    - Transitioning from politics, the hosts share their thoughts on recent movies they've watched, specifically focusing on "The First Omen" and a sequel to "The Exorcist." They discuss the storytelling and thematic elements of these films, providing recommendations for listeners interested in horror and thriller genres.
    Technological Tools for Podcasters
    - A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing new podcasting tools that Yergz has been exploring. He details his experience with platforms like Cirrus Streaming and Flow Send, explaining how these tools simplify the podcasting process by automating tasks such as uploading episodes, generating transcripts, and creating SEO-friendly content.
    Reflections on Podcasting Experience
    - The hosts reflect on their journey in podcasting, discussing the evolution of their show and the tools they've used. They emphasize the benefits of new technologies that help streamline their workflow and enhance the quality of their podcast.
    Closing Thoughts
    - Jane and Yergz conclude the episode with personal updates and plans for the upcoming week. They express their excitement about the new tools and the potential improvements these could bring to their podcasting process.

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    22 min
  • Manipulation and Fear: Unpacking Political and Religious Tactics

    In this continued episode of Both Sides Now, hosts Yergz and Jane Stahl delve into the political and religious manipulation tactics they believe are mirrored in C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters. They discuss how both the Republican Party and the Catholic Church allegedly use fear and fabricated threats to control and direct their followers. The conversation also touches on recent political actions, such as the proposed TikTok ban and aid packages, suggesting these are also manipulative tactics. Additionally, the hosts explore the broader implications of dependency on foreign technology and materials. The episode weaves together themes of manipulation in politics, religion, and media, drawing parallels between historical and current events with a critical perspective on leadership and power dynamics.

    00:00:24 - Discussion on political manipulation and fear tactics
    00:01:29 - Mention of Trump and the Republican Party's strategies
    00:02:04 - Historical political actions and their implications
    00:03:27 - Deliberate fabrications for political gain
    00:04:16 - Discussion on aid packages and international politics
    00:06:08 - Social media's role in political influence
    00:07:52 - Impact of technology on various industries
    00:08:43 - Personal reflections on career aspirations and influences
    00:10:44 - The role of institutions in shaping societal roles
    00:11:52 - Community and personal responses to societal issues
    00:13:00 - Personal anecdotes and reflections on societal acceptance
    00:14:02 - Positive conversation and its impact
    00:15:25 - Art imitating reality through film
    00:16:11 - Discussion on confronting societal issues
    00:17:41 - Manipulation and gaslighting in politics
    00:19:06 - Real-life villains and unresolved societal questions
    00:20:32 - Closing remarks and intermission announcement
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    22 min
  • From Community Gatherings to Personal Struggles S2,E16

    In this podcast episode, the Yergz engages Jane in a casual conversation that covers a variety of personal experiences and local community events. They discuss a busy weekend in Boyertown, where the annual "coming out of hibernation" event took place, featuring street vendors, food trucks, and a citizens of the year gala. The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes about dental issues and the stress of daily life. Additionally, they delve into a discussion about a horror movie prequel, The First Omen, analyzing its plot and thematic elements related to faith and the supernatural. The episode is a blend of community news, personal stories, and film critique, reflecting the hosts' diverse interests and experiences.

    00:00:06 - Introduction and Greetings

    00:03:22 - Speaker A's Weekend and Community Events

    00:04:25 - Speaker A's Dental Issues and Community Involvement

    00:05:17 - Speaker B's Personal Updates and Family Matters

    00:06:13 - Speaker B Discusses Stress and Dental Problems

    00:09:20 - Transition to Main Topic Discussion

    00:10:39 - Discussion on Horror Movies and Faith

    00:15:52 - Reaction to the Movie and Sleep Quality

    00:17:11 - Detailed Discussion on the Movie 'The First Omen'

    00:19:42 - Plot Twists and Character Analysis

    00:22:16 - Philosophical and Ethical Considerations in the Movie

    00:22:45 - Intermission Announcement and Episode Wrap-Up

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    24 min
  • The Personal and the Digital: Finding Balance in How We Connect

    In this podcast episode, hosts Jane Stahl and Yergz engage in a reflective and personal conversation, touching on themes of gratitude, personal connections, and the impact of social media on birthday acknowledgments. Jane shares heartfelt stories about the significance of receiving birthday wishes from former students and the deep appreciation for those who still refer to her as "Mrs. Stahl." The discussion also delves into the challenges of maintaining personal connections in the digital age, the nuances of online interactions, and the hosts' personal experiences with social media notifications and their implications on relationships. The episode is a blend of personal anecdotes and broader social commentary, providing listeners with insights into the hosts' lives and their perspectives on contemporary social dynamics.

    Key Discussion Points:

    1. Personal Reflections and Celebrations:- Jane shares her heartfelt experiences from her birthday, emphasizing the importance of personal connections and the joy of receiving messages from former students.

    2. Social Media and Personal Connections:- The hosts discuss the changes in how social media platforms notify users about birthdays, reflecting on how technology impacts personal relationships.

    3. The Impact of Former Students and Mentors:- Jane expresses how former students continue to impact her life, highlighting the lasting influence of educational relationships.

    4. Media and Promotions:- Discussion on the role of media in promoting personal projects and the dynamics of collaboration and promotion within the media industry.

    5. Exploration of "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis:- Jane delves deep into the themes of "The Screwtape Letters," discussing the nuanced depiction of temptation and morality. The conversation explores how the book's themes relate to contemporary societal behaviors and personal introspection.

    6. Character Analysis and Societal Critique:- The hosts discuss various societal figures and behaviors that exemplify the negative traits outlined in "The Screwtape Letters," using these reflections to critique broader social dynamics.

    7. Personal Anecdotes and Experiences:- The episode is rich with personal stories and anecdotes that illustrate the hosts' points, making the philosophical discussions relatable and grounded in everyday experiences.

    8. Community Engagement and Local Arts:- Jane highlights local community events and projects, such as poetry displays in the park and local art, encouraging community engagement and support for local culture.

    9. Future Planning and Podcast Scheduling:- Discussion on upcoming podcast episodes and plans, showcasing the growth and reach of the podcast, including its reception in different regions like Atlanta, Georgia.

    10. Philosophical and Ethical Reflections:- The conversation returns to philosophical reflections, with a focus on living in the present and dealing with fears of the future, drawing again on themes from "The Screwtape Letters.

    00:00:00 - Introduction and Casual Conversation

    00:01:36 - Discussion on Birthday and Personal Thank Yous

    00:06:15 - Reflections on Past Interactions and Relationships

    00:10:24 - Social Media and Birthday Reminders

    00:18:17 - Characteristics of People Influenced by Negative Forces

    00:24:30 - Discussion on Societal Influence and Leadership

    00:27:33 - Personal Anecdotes and Experiences with Influential Figures

    00:36:22 - Philosophical and Ethical Considerations in Leadership

    00:39:43 - Political Commentary and Societal Observations

    00:42:03 - Future Projections and Concerns

    00:45:33 - Positive Community Initiatives and Personal Projects

    00:48:01 - Promoting Local Talent and Community Engagement

    00:51:49 - Concluding Thoughts and Advice for Positive Living

    54 min
  • Family Ties and Childhood Tales: A Heartwarming Chat with "Susy from the Y"

    In this episode of Both Sides Now, the hosts engage in a lively and touching conversation with Susy Yerger, affectionately known as Susy from the Y - and Ross' mom! The discussion offers a deep dive into Susy's experiences raising three sons, each with their own unique paths and personalities. She shares memorable stories from their childhood, including a poignant tale about her son's early health scare and his surprising ability to speak at a young age. The conversation also explores Susy's various community roles, her activities since retiring, and her enduring connection with her children. This episode is filled with insights on family dynamics, the challenges and joys of parenting, and the strong bonds that continue to influence their lives.

    Title: Both Sides Now: A Heartwarming Chat with Susie
    Episode Summary:
    In this episode of "Both Sides Now," we sit down with Susie, a beloved community figure known for her various roles in Boyertown, including her work at St. Joseph Hill daycare and her involvement in local organizations. Susie shares delightful and touching stories from her life, reflecting on family, work, and the joys of community involvement.
    Welcome and Introduction:
    - Hosts introduce Susie, highlighting her diverse roles in the community.
    - Susie is revealed to be the mother of the host, adding a personal touch to the episode.
    Family Stories and Early Memories:
    - Susie recounts her experiences raising three sons, each with distinct personalities and paths in life.
    - She shares a touching story about her son's hospitalization at a young age and his early ability to speak, which foreshadowed his future in broadcasting.
    Career and Community Involvement:
    - Discussion about Susie's various roles in the community, from daycare work to her involvement in local organizations.
    - Susie talks about the fulfillment she finds in working with children and staying active in community service.
    Reflections on Parenting and Family Life:
    - Insights into the challenges and rewards of parenting three boys.
    - Susie reflects on the dynamics between her sons and how their relationships evolved over the years.
    Work-Life Balance and Retirement:
    - Susie discusses her decision to retire and how she balances her time between leisure activities like pickleball and volunteering.
    - She shares her thoughts on staying active and engaged even in retirement.
    00:00:07 - Introduction and Greetings
    00:01:02 - Early Childhood Stories and Family Background
    00:02:12 - Rusty's Early Years and Health Scare
    00:03:26 - Rusty's Early Speaking Skills
    00:04:02 - Family Dynamics and Sibling Relationships
    00:05:03 - Career Paths of Siblings
    00:06:15 - Susy's Retirement and Activities
    00:07:25 - Social Plans and Outings
    00:08:33 - Music and Gifts
    00:09:01 - Enjoying the Visit and Local Attractions
    00:10:10 - Concerns About Weather and Home Maintenance
    00:11:03 - Family Planning and Age Gaps Between Children
    00:12:06 - Sports and Naming Stories
    00:13:02 - Childhood Memories and Family Influence
    00:14:08 - Rusty's Sports Involvement and Preferences
    00:16:08 - Transitioning from Sports to Other Interests
    00:17:23 - Challenges of Being a Sports Parent
    00:18:06 - Naming Conventions and Family Names
    00:19:06 - More on Family Names and Connections
    00:20:44 - Personal Stories and Name Origins
    00:22:24 - How Susy and Her Husband Met
    00:23:36 - Relationship Dynamics and Early Romance
    00:24:08 - Wedding Details and Family Involvement
    00:26:14 - Adjustments After Marriage and Work-Life Balance
    00:27:33 - Honeymoon and Early Marriage Challenges
    00:28:12 - Retirement and Business Changes
    00:29:22 - Vacation Enjoyment and Plans
    00:30:12 - Future Social Plans and Preferences
    00:31:36 - Potential Podcast Guest Discussion
    00:32:38 - Family Stories and Anecdotes
    00:33:50 - More on Family and Community Impact
    00:35:35 - Childhood Memories and Influences
    00:36:01 - Additional Family Stories and Closing Remarks

    47 min

About Both Sides Now

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Join Jane Stahl, from Boyertown's Studio B and the B Inspired Podcast, along with retired Secret Service Agent Ross "Yergz" Yerger, of "Up The Middle," as they team up to solve the world's problems.โ€ฆ