Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show

If every tech company markets itself as AI-powered, then AI isn’t a differentiator anymore.

In this episode of Brand2Brand, Tom and Veronica compare Fin and Help Scout, two customer service software brands taking very different approaches to AI and brand positioning. Join us as we break down what it takes to actually differentiate your brand when everyone in your category is telling the same story, and why owning a clear, defensible position matters more than making your message sound like everyone else’s.

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Hiring is broken. Job seekers are using AI to apply for more roles, employers are using AI to screen more applicants, and both sides are becoming increasingly frustrated with a process that feels less human by the day.

In this episode of Brand2Brand, Tom and Veronica compare Indeed and LinkedIn’s competing visions for the future of AI-powered hiring. LinkedIn is betting on greater automation and recruiter efficiency, while Indeed is positioning AI as a tool for creating better, more person-centered matches. Which approach can rebuild trust, and what can every business learn from the way its hiring process shapes its brand?

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When it comes to health and human services technology, success comes down to building trust—not hype. In this episode of Brand2Brand, we’re looking at Epic and Eleos Health, two companies approaching healthcare and human services innovation from completely different angles while solving for the same thing: creating better experiences for patients and clinicians alike.

Tune in as we explore how some of the strongest brands are growing without flashy marketing and instead with trust from their core audience.

For full episode resources and references, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

Personalization used to be a premium feature. Now it’s the baseline, no matter what vertical you’re in.

In this episode of Brand2Brand, we break down how Slate Auto and Etsy are scaling personalization through modular lean manufacturing and AI-powered discovery, and what that means for marketing leaders.

For full episode resources and references, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

Prospective students are choosing where to enroll long before they ever fill out a form.

In this episode of Brand2Brand, Tom and Veronica examine how Arizona State University (ASU) and Southern New Hampshire University (SNHU) approach enrollment marketing through search in very different ways. From digital advertising and dynamic search to inbound SEO strategies, we’re unpacking how meeting students at different parts of the decision-making process can have a major impact on their enrollment over time.

For full episode resources and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

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Just because it’s B2B doesn’t mean it has to be boring.

In this Brand2Brand Happy Hour, we sit down with Cliff Stevens of Sedgwick to hear how his bold, consumer-first approach to the traditional B2B category is the key to standing out in a sea of sameness.

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By inviting customers to experiment, build, and co-create alongside them, LEGO and IKEA have transformed their modular product systems into engines for creativity and loyalty.

In this episode, Tom and Veronica explore how both brands are translating their product systems into storytelling systems. Because in the end, you’re not just marketing a product—you’re marketing the entire experience of using it too.

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AI might be revolutionizing business, but that doesn’t mean your customers love it too. For brands like Intuit, AI represents efficiency, innovation, and next-gen thinking. But for lifestyle brands like Aerie, audiences crave human creativity and realness when that’s what the brand is built on.

From FinTech to fashion, we’re unpacking how each side of the AI debate shapes brand trust and audience loyalty—and why success isn’t about if you use AI, but how you use it.

For the full episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

Grab a drink—it’s Happy Hour! Today, Tom sits down with Ted Schlueter, CEO of The Grist and author of Branding for Buyout, to talk brand equity, mergers and acquisitions, and how founders are simplifying their future exit strategies by baking it into the brand itself.

Tune in as we hear from Ted on how he’s helped businesses from CPG to B2B tech dramatically increase their valuation, and how you can use these strategies in your own brand planning.

For the full episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

Attention spans may be shrinking, but the smartest brands are proving that long-form storytelling still wins.

In this episode of Brand2Brand, Tom and Veronica dig into how both brands are creating binge-worthy series that blur the line between ad and entertainment—and why the future of advertising isn’t about interrupting content, it’s about being the content.

From trust and brand loyalty to engagement and sentiment, we unpack how long-form storytelling builds deeper connections, why episodic content is on the rise, and what it means for marketers navigating a short-form-obsessed world.

For the full episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.