After 27 years of friendship, Joey Odom and Chris Hart are finally doing the thing they've been talking about since college. Every week, they're sitting down to have the kind of conversations that make both of them better men.

Episode one starts where the show starts: with the friendship itself. Then Chris walks Joey (and you) through the framework that anchors how he coaches some of the most successful leaders in the country. It's called the 20 Mile March.

In the early 1900s, two expedition teams raced to be the first to reach the South Pole. One pushed hard on good weather days and hunkered down on bad ones. The other committed to 20 miles a day, every day, no matter the conditions. Only one team made it home.

The same principle that decided who lived and who died on that ice is the principle that decides whether you'll actually become the husband, father, leader, and man you say you want to be.

In this episode:
— Why you become better around the right people (and how to find them)
— The Roald Amundsen expedition that changed how Chris coaches every client
— Why the "lone wolf" is a myth that gets you killed
— The unsexy truth about everyday courage (hint: it looks like not hitting snooze)
— How to stop being a bystander to your own life
— The one question that turns ordinary days into intentional ones
This week's small step: Pick one category. Faith, family, fitness, finances, friends. Decide what your 20 Mile March looks like in it. Make it small. Make it sustainable. Then wake up tomorrow and execute.
Be Brave. Live Big.

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FOLLOW THE HOSTS
Chris Hart: @thechrishart, @thebravecoaches
 
Joey Odom: instagram.com/joeyodom.life
https://www.joeyodom.life/

REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE The 20 Mile March concept comes from Jim Collins' book Great by Choice (2011), based on his research into what set Roald Amundsen's South Pole expedition apart from Robert Scott's.


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Welcome to Brave & Big — a weekly conversation for anyone ready to stop coasting and start taking ground. 

Chris Hart, founder and CEO of Brave Coaches, and Joey Odom, public speaker, author, and former tech co-founder, have been best friends for over 25 years. In that friendship, they've had thousands of conversations — and walked away from every one of them better, sharper, and more fired up to live a life worth following. 

This trailer is their invitation to pull up a chair. 

Each week, Chris and Joey will dig into what it actually looks like to be Brave and live Big: killing excuses, taking ground in your marriage, following Jesus, raising kids who matter, getting fit, building friendships that sharpen you, and chasing the things you were made for. Some episodes will be just the two of them. Others will feature high-performing athletes, business leaders, and performers who've learned how to show up. 

And every single episode will close the same way — with one small, practical step you can take immediately. 

Because a Brave and Big life isn't built in a leap. It's built in a step. 

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