Breaking Into Cybersecurity

What does a 25-year cybersecurity career actually look like — and what does the CISO role require today when AI, regulatory pressure, and economic uncertainty all collide at once?Daniel Ayala is the Founder and Managing Partner of Secratic, a fractional CISO and Chief Privacy Officer consultancy. He's served as CISO at ProQuest, Interim CISO at Michigan State University, and today advises multiple SMBs simultaneously on security strategy, AI risk, and data privacy.In this episode, we talk about what it really takes to step into a CISO role, how the fractional CISO model works as a career path, why insider threat programs need a serious update in the AI era, and what practitioners pivoting into security leadership actually need to know.---**⏱ TIMESTAMPS**- 00:00 — Intro- 02:00 — Daniel's background and the 25-year journey- 08:00 — How Secratic was born: the fractional CISO model- 14:00 — Serving multiple organizations simultaneously- 19:00 — AI risk: what CISOs actually need to be doing right now- 25:00 — Insider threat in the age of workforce disruption- 30:00 — Privacy engineering vs. compliance thinking- 35:00 — CMMC, SEC disclosure, and what they mean for practitioners- 40:00 — How to position yourself for a CISO or vCISO role- 44:00 — Mentorcore: formalizing mentorship in cybersecurity- 47:00 — Advice for career changers breaking into cyber---**🔗 CONNECT WITH DANIEL**- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielaayala/- Secratic: https://secratic.com- The Great Security Podcast: https://greatsecuritydebate.net- Mentorcore: https://mentorcore.biz- Blog: https://danielayala.com**📚 BOOKS FROM OUR HOSTS**- Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: https://amzn.to/3443AUI- Hack the Cybersecurity Interview: https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/- Hacker Inc.: https://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/- Magnetic Hiring (Renee): https://magnetichiring.com/book**🎤 BREAKING INTO CYBERSECURITY**Real conversations about pivoting into cyber — what you did before, how you got in, and how to keep growing.- 🌐 Website: https://breakingintocybersecurity.org- 📬 Newsletter: https://newsletter.breakingintocybersecurity.org- 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/16hs6zYtLa4iS4RTcyNF71- 🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-into-cybersecurity/id1463136698- 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/breaking-into-cybersecurity/#CyberSecurity #CISO #AIRisk #FractionalCISO #CareerChange #BreakingIntoCybersecurity #CyberLeadership #Privacy #InfoSec #CyberCareer

Peter Swimm started at a library computer desk. He ended up as a product owner at Microsoft and founder of his own AI security consultancy.

In this episode, Peter shares the real path — not the polished LinkedIn version. He talks about why working at startups changed how he thinks about learning, what it actually takes to balance security with user experience, and why conversational AI is opening a security attack surface most teams aren't prepared for.

If you're trying to break into cybersecurity from a non-traditional background, or you're already in tech and wondering what's next — this conversation is for you.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

→ Why baking security in from day one beats retrofitting it later

→ The "promiscuous learning" mindset that opens more doors than any cert

→ How conversational AI is changing the threat landscape right now

→ Career moves that come from taking on work outside your job description

→ What organizational culture really signals about your growth ceiling

📌 Chapters:

0:00 Intro — Peter's Cybersecurity Origin Story

0:58 First tech job and what the internet taught him

2:41 Transition into product ownership

5:03 Balancing security vs. user experience

9:19 Career advice: what actually works

16:00 The evolution of conversational AI

21:23 AI security: the challenges nobody talks about

26:42 Final thoughts and advice

🔗 Connect with Peter Swimm:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterswimm/

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Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: https://amzn.to/3443AUI

Hack the Cybersecurity Interview: https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/

Magnetic Hiring (Renee Small): https://magnetichiring.com/book

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Breaking into Cybersecurity: Peter Swim's Journey from Libraries to Leading AI Conversations

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In this episode of Breaking into Cybersecurity, we feature Peter Swim, the founder of the consultancy Toilville. Peter shares his unique journey into cybersecurity, starting from working at a library to becoming a product owner at Microsoft. He discusses the importance of security in tech and AI, the impact of working in startups, and how his experiences have shaped his career. Peter also provides valuable advice to juniors in the field, emphasizing the need to stay flexible, keep learning, and find the right organizational culture. This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in tech, cybersecurity, and career development in the AI space.

00:00 Introduction to Peter Swim's Cybersecurity Journey

00:58 Early Career and Initial Interest in Tech

02:41 Transition to Product Ownership

05:03 Balancing Security and User Experience

09:19 Career Advice for Aspiring Professionals

16:00 The Evolution of Conversational AI

21:23 Challenges and Insights in AI and Security

26:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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The Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.

The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.

Check out our books:

The Cybersecurity Advantage - https://leanpub.com/the-cybersecurity-advantage

Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roles

https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/

Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Career

https://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/

About the hosts:

Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and encouraging more people to enter the lucrative cybersecurity profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/reneebrownsmall/Download a free copy of her book at magnetichiring.com/book

Christophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/

Find out more about CPF-Coaching at https://www.cpf-coaching.com

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Adeel Shaikh Muhammad's Journey: From Networking to Cybersecurity Expertise

In this episode of Breaking into Cybersecurity, Adeel Sheik Mohammed shares his journey from his early exposure to computers through his father's training institute to becoming a cybersecurity expert. Adiel describes his academic background in telecommunication and networking, the pivotal decision to specialize in cybersecurity, and the certifications and hands-on experience that facilitated his transition. He discusses his roles, including his first cybersecurity job as a solution architect with WatchGuard, and elaborates on his continued learning through certifications. Adiel also talks about his contributions to the field, including authoring books on AI’s impact on SOC and cybersecurity and his ongoing doctorate focused on AI and cybersecurity. The episode concludes with advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals on networking, certifications, and staying current with industry developments.

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00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:53 Early Life and Initial Interest in Cybersecurity

02:09 Transition to Cybersecurity

04:35 First Cybersecurity Role

05:43 Certifications and Continuous Learning

07:31 Writing Books and Doctorate Journey

10:19 Current Work and Future Plans

18:44 Advice for Aspiring Cybersecurity Professionals

21:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Sponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.com

The Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.

The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.

Check out our books:

The Cybersecurity Advantage - https://leanpub.com/the-cybersecurity-advantage

Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUI

Hack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roles

https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/

Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Career

https://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/

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About the host:

Christophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/

---🛡️ Navigating the Changing Threat Landscape & Keeping SMBs Safe:• Subscribe to the vCISO Brief on Substack: https://vciso.substack.com• Book a Free 30-Min Security Snapshot Call: https://calendarbridge.com/book/cpf-coaching/🔔 Subscribe & Follow the Ecosystem:• Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/16hs6zYtLa4iS4RTcyNF71• Breaking Into Cybersecurity YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakingIntoCybersecurity• CPF Coaching YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CPFCoaching• Website: https://breakingintocybersecurity.com• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/breaking-into-cybersecurity/

From History Teacher to Cybersecurity Director: John Murrow's Unique Career Journey

In this episode of Breaking Into Cybersecurity, we explore the incredible journey of John Murrow, who transitioned from being a history teacher and college athletic coach to becoming the Director of Delivery at Elite Ops. John shares how his passion for technology was reignited despite early-career obstacles, the critical role of military service in his career transition, and how foundational skills in networking and people management were vital to his success.

Learn about the importance of continuous learning, the impact of family and networking, and the value of hands-on experience. Don't miss John's valuable advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals!

00:00 Introduction to Breaking Into Cybersecurity

00:58 John Murrow's Early Career Path

02:04 Transitioning to Cybersecurity

02:52 Joining the Military for a Career Change

04:32 Starting at Elite Ops

04:50 The Importance of Communication Skills

06:04 Advice for Aspiring Cybersecurity Professionals

07:25 The Role of Military Experience in Cybersecurity

08:43 The Value of Hands-On Training

12:20 Challenges and Opportunities in Cybersecurity Education

19:09 The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity

27:06 Final Thoughts and Career Advice

Sponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.com

The Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.

The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.

Check out our books:

The Cybersecurity Advantage - https://leanpub.com/the-cybersecurity-advantage

Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roles

https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/

Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Career

https://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/

About the hosts:

Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and encouraging more people to enter the lucrative cybersecurity profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/reneebrownsmall/Download a free copy of her book at magnetichiring.com/book

Christophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/

Find out more about CPF-Coaching at https://www.cpf-coaching.com

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Breaking into Cybersecurity with Shadya Maldonado

In this episode of Breaking into Cybersecurity, Shadya Maldonado, Founder and CEO of ArcQubit, shares her journey and extensive experience in the field. With 16 years in security operations, technology modernization, and risk management, Shadya discusses her transition from a military analyst to a leader in cybersecurity and AI. She highlights her work with organizations such as CISA, DARPA, DOE, and NASA, as well as her passion for developing tools to make quantum computing accessible. Shadya also offers valuable advice for individuals looking to grow their careers in cybersecurity.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

01:16 Shaday's Unconventional Path to Cybersecurity

01:48 From Military to Cybersecurity

02:50 Exposure to Data Science and Cybersecurity

03:43 Immersion in Cybersecurity and SANS Conference

04:45 Founding Arc Qubit and Quantum Computing

06:49 Developing Quantum-Ready Talent

14:02 The Importance of Cybersecurity Knowledge

21:06 Shaday's Leadership Journey

24:24 Advice for Aspiring Cybersecurity Professionals

26:09 Closing Remarks

Sponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.com

The Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.

The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.

Check out our books:

The Cybersecurity Advantage - https://leanpub.com/the-cybersecurity-advantage

Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roles

https://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/

Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Career

https://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/

About the hosts:

Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and encouraging more people to enter the lucrative cybersecurity profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/reneebrownsmall/Download a free copy of her book at magnetichiring.com/book

Christophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/

Find out more about CPF-Coaching at https://www.cpf-coaching.com

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Robert Siciliano's Journey: From Personal Trauma to Cybersecurity ExpertIn this episode of Breaking into Cybersecurity, Robert Siciliano shares his unique pathway into the cybersecurity industry. Starting with a traumatic childhood incident, Robert's interest in security was sparked and further solidified by various personal experiences, including identity theft. Over decades, he evolved his expertise to encompass both physical and virtual security, making significant strides in educating others about risk management and security awareness. Robert discusses how personal experiences shape professional behaviors and emphasizes the importance of making security relatable and holistic. His approach contrasts traditional technical training, aiming to instill a deeper appreciation for security in both personal and professional contexts.00:00 Introduction to the Episode00:46 Robert's Early Life and Initial Interest in Security02:56 First Encounter with Cybersecurity05:32 Transition to Cybersecurity Awareness Training09:14 Challenges in Security Awareness13:37 Holistic Approach to Security27:28 Communicating Security to the Next Generation32:38 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.comThe Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.Check out our books:Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roleshttps://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Careerhttps://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/---About the hosts:Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and encouraging more people to enter the lucrative cybersecurity profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/reneebrownsmall/Download a free copy of her book at magnetichiring.com/bookChristophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/---🛡️ Navigating the Changing Threat Landscape & Keeping SMBs Safe:• Subscribe to the vCISO Brief on Substack: https://vciso.substack.com• Book a Free 30-Min Security Snapshot Call: https://calendarbridge.com/book/cpf-coaching/🔔 Subscribe & Follow the Ecosystem:• Spotify Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/16hs6zYtLa4iS4RTcyNF71• Breaking Into Cybersecurity YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakingIntoCybersecurity• CPF Coaching YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CPFCoaching• Website: https://breakingintocybersecurity.com• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/breaking-into-cybersecurity/

Jason Casey's Journey: From Software Engineering to CybersecurityIn this episode of 'Breaking into Cybersecurity,' we chat with Jason Casey, who shares his unique path from being a software engineer to a cybersecurity expert. Jason discusses his initial work on network protocols, his transition to big data intelligence, and eventually moving into cybersecurity defense. He stresses the importance of curiosity and understanding fundamental principles, and provides insights into the evolving role of AI in programming and cybersecurity. Jason also shares how he has helped others grow in their careers, and offers valuable advice for those looking to break into and excel in the cybersecurity field. Tune in to hear his inspiring journey and learn practical tips for success.00:00 Introduction to Jason Casey's Cybersecurity Journey01:00 Early Career and Transition to Cybersecurity03:24 Deep Dive into Networking and Security Challenges06:37 Big Data Intelligence and Forensics08:54 Principles and Fundamentals in Tech Careers11:58 Mentorship and Career Development16:04 AI in Programming and Cybersecurity25:50 Final Advice for Aspiring Cybersecurity Professionals

Sponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.com/The Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.Check out our books:Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roleshttps://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Careerhttps://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/---About the hosts:Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and encouraging more people to enter the lucrative cybersecurity profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/reneebrownsmall/Download a free copy of her book at [magnetichiring.com/book](http://magnetichiring.com/book)Christophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/Find out more about CPF-Coaching at [https://www.cpf-coaching.com](https://www.cpf-coaching.com/)- Website: https://www.cyberhubpodcast.com/breakingintocybersecurity- Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/breaking-into-cybersecuri- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BreakingIntoCybersecurity- Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/breaking-into-cybersecurity/- Twitter: https://twitter.com/BreakintoCyber- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/breakingintocybersecurity

Breaking into Cybersecurity: Brian Carbaugh's Journey from CIA to Cyber StartupIn this episode of Breaking into Cybersecurity, Brian Carbaugh shares his extensive journey from serving in the Marines and the CIA to becoming a leader in the cybersecurity industry. Brian talks about his career evolution, the challenges he faced, and the valuable lessons he learned at each stage. He offers insightful tips for keeping up with the fast-moving cybersecurity landscape and emphasizes the importance of human operators in enhancing cybersecurity measures. Brian also discusses the pivotal role of technology and diverse team dynamics in achieving mission-critical goals. Please tune in to get inspired by his dedication to national security and his smooth transition into the private sector, highlighting the need for resilience, learning, and collaboration.  / brian-carbaugh-38b339243   00:00 Introduction to Brian Carbaugh's Cybersecurity Journey00:26 Military Background and Transition to CIA02:01 Pivot to Technology and Cybersecurity03:58 Leadership and Technological Insights from CIA06:21 Building a Cybersecurity Startup16:30 Balancing Innovation and Security in Startups20:59 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity27:12 Advice for Aspiring Cybersecurity Professionals29:35 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.comThe Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why they pivoted into cyber, what the process was they went through, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership, as well as tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.Check out our books:Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roleshttps://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecu...Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Careerhttps://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Min...---About the hosts:Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and encouraging more people to enter the lucrative cybersecurity profession.   / reneebrownsmall  Download a free copy of her book at http://magnetichiring.com/bookChristophe Foulon focuses on helping secure people and processes, drawing on a solid understanding of the technologies involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing technology use while balancing its implications for people, processes, and information security, through a consultative approach.  / christophefoulon  Find out more about CPF-Coaching at https://www.cpf-coaching.com

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In this episode of Breaking Into Cybersecurity, M.K. Palmore, a cybersecurity leader and former FBI special agent, shares his journey from serving in the Marines and the FBI to leading his own consulting firm, Apogee Global RMS. He discusses his early interest in technology, the importance of effective communication in cybersecurity leadership, and the challenges of transitioning from public to private sectors. M.K. also emphasizes the value of continuous learning and staying updated with evolving technologies such as AI. Tune in for an insightful conversation filled with practical tips and strategies for breaking into and thriving in the cybersecurity industry.https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkpalmore/ 00:00 Introduction to Breaking Into Cybersecurity00:55 Meet MK Palmore01:54 Early Interest in Technology03:33 Journey into the FBI04:34 Transition to Cybersecurity09:52 Importance of Communication Skills14:10 Running a Cybersecurity Consultancy18:05 Bridging the Gap for SMBs25:35 Keeping Up with Evolving Technology29:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts#Cybersecurity #CareerJourney #FBI #TechLeadership #ContinuousLearning #AI #breakingintocybersecurity Sponsored by CPF Coaching LLC - http://cpf-coaching.comThe Breaking into Cybersecurity: It’s a conversation about what they did before, why did they pivot into cyber, what the process was they went through Breaking Into Cybersecurity, how they keep up, and advice/tips/tricks along the way.The Breaking into Cybersecurity Leadership Series is an additional series focused on cybersecurity leadership and hearing directly from different leaders in cybersecurity (high and low) on what it takes to be a successful leader. We focus on the skills and competencies associated with cybersecurity leadership and tips/tricks/advice from cybersecurity leaders.Check out our books: Develop Your Cybersecurity Career Path: How to Break into Cybersecurity at Any Level https://amzn.to/3443AUIHack the Cybersecurity Interview: Navigate Cybersecurity Interviews with Confidence, from Entry-level to Expert roleshttps://www.amazon.com/Hack-Cybersecurity-Interview-Interviews-Entry-level/dp/1835461298/Hacker Inc.: Mindset For Your Careerhttps://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Inc-Mindset-Your-Career/dp/B0DKTK1R93/_________________________________________About the hosts:   Renee Small is the CEO of Cyber Human Capital, one of the leading human resources business partners in the field of cybersecurity, and author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book, Magnetic Hiring: Your Company's Secret Weapon to Attracting Top Cyber Security Talent. She is committed to helping leaders close the cybersecurity talent gap by hiring from within and helping more people get into the lucrative cybersecurity profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/reneebrownsmall/Download a free copy of her book at magnetichiring.com/bookChristophe Foulon focuses on helping to secure people and processes, using a solid understanding of the technology involved. He has over ten years of experience as an Information Security Manager and Cybersecurity Strategist. He is passionate about customer service, process improvement, and information security. He has significant expertise in optimizing the use of technology while balancing the implications for people, processes, and information security through a consultative approach.https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulon/Find out more about CPF-Coaching at https://www.cpf-coaching.com- Website: https://www.cyberhubpodcast.com/breakingintocybersecurity- Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/breaking-into-cybersecuri- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BreakingIntoCybersecurity- Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/breaking-into-cybersecurity/- Twitter: https://twitter.com/BreakintoCyber- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/breakingintocybersecurity