Breaking the Frame

Breaking the Frame is a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. This episode, we explore issues of American folk, self-taught, and “outsider” art with Michael Bramwell, an artist, curator, and scholar who recently retired from his role as the Joyce Linde Curator of Folk and Self-Taught Art at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston.

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More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode:

• Hear Me Now: The Black Potters of Old Edgefield, South Carolina exhibition at the MFA Boston https://www.mfa.org/exhibition/hear-me-now-the-black-potters-of-old-edgefield-south-carolina
• “The Enslaved Artist Whose Pottery Was an Act of Resistance” https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/arts/design/-enslaved-potter-david-drake-museum.html
• New Discourses on Folk and Self-Taught Art symposium at the MFA Boston https://www.mfa.org/event/symposium/new-discourses-on-folk-and-self-taught-art
• “MFA Boston Appoints Michael J. Bramwell as Inaugural Joyce Linde Curator of Folk and Self-Taught Art” https://mfa.org/press-release/michael-bramwell-folk-art-curator
• Folk Art of the Americas at the MFA Boston https://collections.mfa.org/collections/315158
• “Heard a Voice, Saw a Light: Spiritual Implications of Creative Belief in Black Vernacular Art” by Michael J. Bramwell, essay in The Unfinished Business of Unsettled Things: Art from an African American South https://uncpress.org/book/9781469668529/the-unfinished-business-of-unsettled-things/
• Minnie Evans https://americanart.si.edu/artist/minnie-evans-1466
• Souls Grown Deep https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/
• Gee's Bend quiltmakers https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/gees-bend-quiltmakers
• Joseph E. Yoakum https://www.moma.org/artists/26683

Credits:

• Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble
• Production Assistant: Katherine White
• Graduate student guest: Reyna Mallory
• Additional research prepared by: Nathan Osborn and the graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas
• Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, available under Creative Commons Zero (CC0)

Breaking the Frame is a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. Our guest this episode, Dr. Maki Kaneko, is an Associate Professor of Japanese Art at The Kress Foundation Department of Art History of the University of Kansas. She is co-curating an exhibition at the university’s Spencer Museum of Art on the work of Japanese-American artist Jimmy Tsutomu Mirikitani.

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More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode:

• Maki Kaneko at the University of Kansas https://arthistory.ku.edu/people/maki-kaneko
• Jimmy Tsutomu Mirikitani https://americanart.si.edu/artist/jimmy-tsutomu-mirikitani-29289
• Léonard Tsuguharu Foujita https://www.artnet.com/artists/l%C3%A9onard-tsuguharu-foujita/
• Research Fellowships at the Smithsonian American Art Museum https://americanart.si.edu/research/fellowships
• The Cats of Mirikitani, directed by Linda Hattendorf http://www.thecatsofmirikitani.com/

Credits:

• Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble
• Production Assistant: Katherine White
• Graduate student guests: Hannah Johnson and Kendall Marsh
• Additional research prepared by: The graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas
• Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
• Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, available under Creative Commons Zero (CC0)

Breaking the Frame is a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. Our guest this episode is Dare Turner, the first full-time curator of Indigenous art at the Brooklyn Museum. Her curatorial work has been distinguished by projects that advocate for North American Native artists and communities in museum spaces, and she has been involved in collaborative projects that connect Indigenous- and U.S.-focused American art collections together.

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More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode:

• Preoccupied: Indigenizing the Museum https://artbma.org/learn/preoccupied-indigenizing-the-museum/
• First Americans Museum https://famok.org/
• Toward Joy: New Frameworks for American Art, the reinstallation of the American art wing at the Brooklyn Museum https://www.brooklynmuseum.org/exhibitions/american_art
• Nico Williams https://www.nicowilliams.com/

Credits:

• Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble
• Production Assistant: Katherine White
• Graduate student guests: Jinhyun Cho and Amanda 'Sal' Salazar
• Additional research prepared by: The graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas
• Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
• Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, available under Creative Commons Zero (CC0)

Breaking the Frame is a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. This episode, we speak with Ms. Rebecca Shaykin, who approaches American art through a feminist lens for her work as a Curator at the Jewish Museum in New York City.

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More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode:

• The Jewish Museum website https://thejewishmuseum.org/
• Edith Halpert and the Rise of American Art exhibition https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/edith-halpert-and-the-rise-of-american-art
• Edith Halpert: The Downtown Gallery and the Rise of American Art catalogue https://shop.thejewishmuseum.org/edith-halpert-the-downtown-gallery-and-the-rise-of-american-art
• Marta Minujín: Arte! Arte! Arte! Exhibition https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/marta-minujin-arte-arte-arte
• “Rocking the Art World at 80: Marta Minujín is about to get her due at a Jewish Museum solo exhibition — her first major show in the United States.” - New York Times article about the Marta Minujín exhibition https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/20/arts/design/argentinian-artist-marta-minujin-exhibition-jewish-museum.html
• Florine Stettheimer https://www.moma.org/artists/5657
• Draw Them In, Paint Them Out: Trenton Doyle Hancock Confronts Philip Guston, upcoming exhibition https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/trenton-doyle-hancock-confronts-philip-guston
• Draw Them In, Paint Them Out: Trenton Doyle Hancock Confronts Philip Guston catalogue https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300278200/draw-them-in-paint-them-out/
• Kali Spitzer Photography https://www.kalispitzer.com/about

Credits:

• Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble
• Production Assistant: Katherine White
• Additional research prepared by: Luke Chupp and Beatrice Levine, graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas
• Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
• Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, available under Creative Commons Zero (CC0)

Breaking the Frame is a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. We start off our interviews this season by talking with Dr. Lucía Abramovich Sánchez, the Carolyn and Peter Lynch Associate Curator of American Decorative Arts and Sculpture at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston and an expert on Latin American art.

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More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode:

• Museum of Fine Arts, Boston's announcement of appointing Lucía Abramovich Sánchez as the Carolyn and Peter Lynch Associate Curator of American Decorative Arts and Sculpture
• Art of the Americas collection at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston
• The Nelson A. Rockefeller Latin American Art Center at the San Antonio Museum of Art
• Ceramics from Tonalá, Mexico
• Tomás Ybarra‐Frausto, "Imagining a More Expansive Narrative of American Art"
• Lucía Abramovich Sánchez, "Exploring the Influence and Significance of Latin American Visual Culture in Chicano/a Art, Movimiento y Más en Austen, Tejas 1960s to 1980s"
• Traitor, Survivor, Icon: The Legacy of La Malinche exhibition at the San Antonio Museum of Art

Credits:

• Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble
• Production Assistant: Katherine White
• Graduate student guests: Gillian Nichols and Abigail Usrey
• Additional research prepared by: The graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas
• Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
• Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, available under Creative Commons Zero (CC0)

Welcome to Breaking the Frame, a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. Before getting to our interviews this season, hosts Emily Casey and Ruthie Dibble set the table in this episode by discussing five major moments in the history of exhibiting American art.

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More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode:

• Major Moment 1: Charles Willson Peale, The Artist in His Museum, 1822.
• Major Moment 2: Thomas Cole, The Course of Empire, ca. 1834-1836: The Savage State, The Arcadian or Pastoral State, The Consummation of Empire, Destruction, Desolation. You can also learn more from a video on the series by New-York Historical Society curator Wendy Nālani E. Ikemoto here.
• Major Moment 3: The opening of the American Wing at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The first image is of the American Wing building featuring the facade of the Second Branch Bank of the United States. The second image is a photograph of the Marmion Room from a series of images promoting the newly opened American Wing. This photograph can be seen at the top of this article from the Met, and you can learn more about the Marmion Room from their website at this link. You can also look through a new (2002) and old (1938) guide to the American Wing on the Met website via the links.
• Major Moment 4: The Two Centuries of Black American Art exhibition curated by David Driskell. Learn more here, and view the photo discussed here.
• Major Moment 5: The Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA). See the photo discussed here.

Credits:

• Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble
• Production Assistant: Katherine White
• Additional research prepared by: The graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas
• Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
• Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art