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The best things I’ve ever done have been emergent- arising out of good conversation and dialogue with others.
This is the MO of Breaking the Paradigm; bringing together Montessori and progressive practitioners and letting the right conversation emerge- no script, no pre-determined outcome, just trust in the power of presence.
And was that spirit of emergence that led Justin Tosco, now a member of the Breaking the Paradigm Five Timers Club, to convince me to let him host our show and interview Kelly and I about our work with Breaking the Paradigm and Developing Education.
This episode was so special to me- in part because this is the first time that we’ve been able to fully tell the story of this work. While longtime listeners have picked up snippets here and there, we are grateful for so many new listeners over the past few months- and this is your chance to get to know us a little better.
This episode is also exciting because it comes on the precipice of some big announcements coming in January for Developing Education- so stay tuned and watch this space!
So if you’re interested in the behind-the-scenes look at how Breaking the Paradigm works, and how many hours of sleep I do (or don’t get) every night, check out this anniversary episode of Breaking the Paradigm!
Thanks, Justin, for being an excellent guest host!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
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Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
What if friendship with students isn’t unprofessional- but essential?
Sometimes the most radical thing we can do is challenge the unspoken rules about teacher-student relationships. When we bring our authentic selves to the classroom and treat young people as worthy of genuine connection, learning becomes possible in ways control never could.
In this conversation with Jarrett Arnold—a science and math teacher who came to education as an artist, parent, and former puppeteer—we explore what happens when we choose radical acceptance over traditional authority.
Why does vulnerability from teachers unlock vulnerability in learners?
What becomes possible when we stop pretending the curriculum isn’t arbitrary and start building real relationships instead?
This conversation isn’t about following the rules—it’s about having the courage to be yourself, trust young people, and remember that students are actually smarter than we are.
All these paradigm-shattering insights on friendship, vulnerability, and radical acceptance, in this episode of Breaking the Paradigm.
Thanks, Jarrett, for a great conversation!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we’re building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won’t touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
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Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
Dear Paradigm Breakers,
We are starting this post with something new and different- sharing a new chapter for us at Breaking the Paradigm/Developing Education as we start our third year of operations in January!
In response to what we have heard from so many of you, that this podcast has given you a deeper sense of community and connection, we are happy to share that we are hosting a six week course, facilitated by Christine Lowry, “A Responsive Classroom: Montessori for ALL.”
The course offers six weeks of videos AND an optional weekly live session for questions and sharing (total about 2 hrs. per week), and is applicable to all levels of Montessori classrooms in public & private schools.
The course explores how to understand and serve ALL students with practical teaching and guiding techniques for minimizing, or preventing challenges, creating a classroom of calm, providing instructional success for all, and partnering with families and community professionals.
Learn more about the course here: https://developingeducation.thinkific.com/products/courses/responsiveguidance
Now, on to our episode!
What if the very practices we think are Montessori are actually authoritarian?
Sometimes the greatest threat to authentic education comes from within—when we control the pipeline of lessons, when we operate from fear instead of trust, when we prioritize materials over spiritual preparation. The question isn’t whether children are ready for independence. It’s whether we’re brave enough to give up control.
In this provocative conversation with Charles Terranova—a Montessori educator who fled law school, trained under Mother Isabel, met Mario Montessori, and has spent decades questioning the authoritarian practices creeping into Montessori schools—we challenge everything we think we know about our role as guides.
Why do we require children to wait for lessons before exploring materials?
What happens when we mistake control for leadership and let fear drive our decisions?
Charles shares his radical experiments: abandoning the rule that children must have lessons before taking materials, observing from outside the classroom, removing lids from boxes to stop controlling what children can see.
His insight cuts to the heart of our work: this approach requires trust in children, giving up our attempts at control, and releasing the fear that something terrible will happen if we let go.
This conversation isn’t about perfecting technique, it’s about confronting the authoritarianism we’ve internalized and choosing trust over control.
All these paradigm-shattering insights on trust, fear, and the spiritual work required to truly guide, in this episode of Breaking the Paradigm.
Thanks, Charles, for a great conversation!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we’re building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won’t touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
What if the real work of education isn’t preparing children- but preparing adults?
Sometimes we focus so intently on where we’re getting students, on outcomes and benchmarks, that we forget to ask: what do we (the adults) need to serve human development? When we shift our attention from the child’s future to our own preparation, everything changes.
In this contemplative conversation with Marie Crutcher—a Montessori educator, yoga practitioner, forest bathing guide, and curriculum creator with over 20 years of classroom experience—we explore the quiet, revolutionary work of attuning ourselves to the moment.
How do we prepare ourselves to live in what the child might need, rather than preparing for an end goal?
What shifts when we understand that Montessori is truly the education of the adult, not the child?
Through practices like forest bathing and present-moment awareness, Marie invites us to see education as a form of spiritual preparation, one that asks us to constantly reflect, to communicate with honesty about our own capacity, and to meet each child exactly where they are.
This conversation isn’t about techniques or curriculum design—it’s about the inner transformation required to truly see the young person in front of you.
All these paradigm-breaking insights on attunement, adult preparation, and being an aid to life, in this episode of Breaking the Paradigm.
Thanks, Marie, for a great conversation!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we’re building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won’t touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
What if the biggest barrier to student capability is our own fear of letting go?
Sometimes we claim students “can’t” do things—but the truth is we stop them from doing things. When we step back from compulsory, coercive control and trust young people with real responsibility, they rise to meet it in ways that surprise us.
In this inspiring conversation with Bruce Robbins- a secondary educator for 41 years who spent his career bringing critical pedagogy and Harkness discussions into schools that had never seen anything like it- we explore what it takes to hold the line on progressive principles.
Bruce shares hard-won wisdom about surviving, and thriving, as a paradigm breaker in traditional schools. This conversation isn’t about compromising ideals for a paycheck—it’s about finding your people, continuing to learn, and being brave enough to go against the grain.
I was lucky to co-teach with Bruce in the immediate wake of the pandemic, and he was the one who introduced me to the Harkness method which fundamentally transformed my pedagogy. You can read about my own personal journey with Harkness discussions here:
For a field which is ripe with teacher attrition, Bruce’s sage advice is required listening for all progressive educators who are wondering how to carry on when their principles are not reflected by our traditional system.
All these insights on courage, capability, and refusing to fall in line, in this episode of Breaking the Paradigm.
Thanks Bruce for a great conversation!
This is yet another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we’re building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won’t touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
What if the very structure of our schools prevents the transformation we seek?
Sometimes the barriers to real education aren’t the teachers or students—they’re built into the system itself. When we fragment knowledge into isolated disciplines and organize schools around hierarchy rather than unity, we limit the understanding that’s possible.
In this profound conversation with Bob Blecher—a former lawyer turned soccer coach turned high school teacher who now dedicates his retirement to building a new educational paradigm—we explore what it means to create truly transformational learning.
How do we move from fragmented knowledge to holistic understanding?
Why do horizontal relationships unlock possibilities that hierarchical ones cannot?
What happens when we honor all knowledges—from PhD physicists to rural farmers—as equally valuable in the learning process?
Bob introduces us to FUNDEAC, a Colombian organization that spent years building relationships in communities before ever starting a school. Their approach reveals a radically different foundation: entering into what they call a “dialogue of knowledges,” where every person’s understanding is respected and honored, because new knowledge is the source of all growth.
This conversation isn’t about incremental reform—it’s about the spiritual foundations required for true transformation.
As Bob reminds us, the means must be consistent with the ends. If we want unity in the world, we must build it through unifying relationships.
If we want to eliminate hierarchies in our society, we cannot expect to reach that outcome by creating hierarchies in schools.
All these paradigm-shifting insights into interdependence, transformation, and the courage to build something entirely new, in this episode of Breaking the Paradigm.
Thanks, Bob, for a great conversation!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we’re building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won’t touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
Why can’t you give an elevator speech about Montessori?
What do quantum physics and indigenous research methods have in common?
And how do 13-year-olds consistently operate at higher stages of moral development than most adults?
Karen Kelley, doctoral candidate in the nation’s first Montessori doctoral program at University of Wisconsin River Falls, tackles these questions by arguing that Montessori exists in an entirely different paradigm: one that Western research methods simply can’t capture.
Her 17 years working with Montessori adolescents revealed something profound: adolescents displaying levels of kindness, thoughtfulness, and moral reasoning that seemed almost impossible, especially to community members who met her adolescents.
The question that drives her research is simple yet profound: What makes Montessori such an effective approach for healthy human development?
When Karen tried to study Montessori using conventional academic methods, she hit a wall.
Phenomenology was too limiting. Traditional qualitative and quantitative approaches couldn’t capture the interconnected, emergent nature of what she was observing. The Western research paradigm, designed to break things into parts for analysis, was fundamentally incompatible with Montessori’s holistic approach.
Her breakthrough came through indigenous research methodologies, particularly Sean Wilson’s “Research is Ceremony.”
Indigenous epistemologies—ways of knowing that honor interconnection, wholeness, and relationship to the cosmos—aligned much more closely with Montessori’s approach than Western academic frameworks.
Karen traces her new understanding back to quantum physics and complexity theory. Just as science moved from Newtonian mechanics (fixed laws, machine-like universe) to quantum reality (relative time and space, webs of relationship), education needs a paradigm shift from content delivery to environments for emergence.
In Montessori classrooms, she argues, we see “complex adaptive systems” at work: environments where feedback loops, interconnections, and emergence create outcomes greater than the sum of their parts.
Students don’t just learn subjects; they become whole human beings capable of what complexity theorist Stuart Kauffman calls “the adjacent possible;” continuous evolution into new possibilities.
Perhaps the most revolutionary insight Karen shares is that children arrive whole rather than empty.
Traditional education assumes deficit and attempts to fill students with knowledge. Montessori recognizes wholeness and creates conditions for that wholeness to flourish without interference.
Listen to discover why emergence can’t be lesson-planned, how complexity theory explains the magic of mixed-age classrooms, and what happens when we finally study education through lenses that honor its full humanity.
Thanks, Karen for a great conversation!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won’t have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you’re different - you’re here because you refuse to accept “that’s just how education works.”
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we’re building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won’t touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here’s the reality: The educational revolution won’t be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It’s being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it’s our turn.
What happens when you discover that the inner work you've been avoiding as an educator is actually the most critical component of serving children authentically?
Koren Clark, founder of Know Thyself Inc and creator of the Liberatory Montessori Framework, exposes the uncomfortable truth that most Montessori educators know but rarely address: without transformed adults, we cannot create truly liberatory experiences for children.
Her journey from Zimbabwe to Oakland reveals how cultural context shapes identity and why Montessori environments must become laboratories for both individual liberation and collective transformation.
Asa Hilliard's insight that "Montessori is a metaphor for humanity" runs through Koren's work. While other educational approaches center economic systems and produce CEOs, Montessori centers the innate process of human becoming.
But only when adults engage in their own liberation work.
Listen to discover why Koren believes there's no such thing as an adult, how children can learn math through drumbeats on the ground, and what happens when educators finally do the inner work that transforms not just classrooms but entire school cultures.
Thanks Koren for a great conversation!
Connect with Koren at knowthyselfinc.org and follow her 100-Day Liberation Challenge on LinkedIn with the QR code below!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won't have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you're different - you're here because you refuse to accept "that's just how education works."
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we're building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won't touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here's the reality: The educational revolution won't be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It's being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it's our turn.
What if the only thing that mattered in a presentation wasn't eye contact or slide design, but whether you moved your audience to think and feel differently?
What if instead of accumulating credentials that prove compliance, students earned recognition by making meaningful gifts to the world?
Dr. Ben Freud, co-founder of the podcast Coconut Thinking and Head of Upper School at Green School Bali, challenges everything we take for granted about assessment, credentials, and power in education. Our conversation reveals the profound losses required for true educational transformation… and why those losses might be worth it.
Ben's work breaking down symbols of power—removing teacher desks, using first names, involving students in policy-making—connects to a deeper theme about what transformation costs. Real change requires the educated elite to surrender social capital they've spent years accumulating.
These aren't just classroom management techniques. They're questions about who holds authority and why, which are required to foster an education environment that not only transforms individuals, but global society at large.
Perhaps the most revolutionary idea in our discussion is reframing education around contribution rather than accumulation. Ben envisions learning as "gifting"—channeling individual passions toward collective benefit rather than personal advancement.
This shifts the fundamental question from "what did you learn?" to "what did you give?" It moves assessment from individual performance to community impact. It transforms credentials from markers of compliance to evidence of contribution.
Our conversation doesn't resolve all tensions around assessment and credentialing, but it opens space for rawer, more honest exploration of these thorny issues.
Listen to discover why Ben believes transformation requires significant personal loss, how a surf helmet represents two years of learning, and what education might look like if we measured gifts to the world rather than grades on papers.
Thanks, Ben, for a great conversation!
Find Ben's work at coconut-thinking.com and listen to the Coconut Thinking Podcast for more conversations about regenerative education practices.
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won't have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you're different - you're here because you refuse to accept "that's just how education works."
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we're building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Magazine Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won't touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here's the reality: The educational revolution won't be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It's being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it's our turn.
How did a method created for marginalized children in Rome's slums become primarily accessible to affluent white families?
Emily Bloyd exposes this painful irony as Head of School in a Montessori program exclusively serving children experiencing homelessness. Her work reveals what happens when we return Montessori to its revolutionary roots instead of treating it as classroom decor for the privileged.
Emily challenges the comfortable lie that some children aren't "ready" for freedom. As she puts it: "If Montessori only works in private elite bubbles, then it doesn't work at all." The only prerequisite for freedom is freedom itself—children learn to use it only when they have it.
Traditional education teaches sitting when told, speaking when permitted, trusting adults over yourself. Montessori flips this completely, creating what Emily calls the self-governing children—which makes administrators break out in hives because "once a child learns to govern themselves, they become much harder to govern by force."
This connects directly to Emily's viral manifesto "Montessori Is My Political Party," where she declares education is never neutral: "It either serves liberation or it serves domination." Her article traces how Maria Montessori's Peace Education—designed during global fascism to raise children who would "look at authoritarianism and say 'Absolutely not'"—has been reduced to laminated feelings charts and meditation bells.
Listen to discover how Emily built a five-star program despite being told it could never work with “those kids,” why she believes Montessori is an act of rebellion, and what happens when we finally serve the children this method was originally designed for.
Follow Emily's revolutionary work as Montessori Miss Emily on social media and consider donating to support her program that proves Montessori works for all children.
Donations specifically go to supporting her teachers as they complete their Montessori credentials in the residency phase of their programs. If you donate, please mention “teacher residency” when you do so the money goes directly into that fund.
Thanks, Emily, for a revolutionary conversation!
You just heard another conversation that mainstream education won't have.
The question is: What are you going to do about it?
Most educators listen to paradigm-breaking ideas and return to the same broken systems tomorrow.
But you're different - you're here because you refuse to accept "that's just how education works."
Ready to move from consuming revolutionary content to building revolutionary alternatives?
Start Free: Join the Paradigm Breakers Community - Connect with educators worldwide who are questioning unspoken norms and implementing authentic alternatives. Share your breakthrough moments, get support for your experiments, and contribute to frameworks we're building together.
Go Deeper: Provocations Subscription - Quarterly investigations into topics mainstream education won't touch. The conversations you just heard barely scratch the surface of what we explore.
Transform Everything: Premium Provocations (Launching Soon) - Join the waitlist for quarterly group coaching calls, 50% off all courses, and direct access to building the frameworks that will reshape education.
Here's the reality: The educational revolution won't be built by people who just listen to podcasts about change. It's being built by educators who question everything, implement alternatives, and prove that transformation is possible.
The traditional education system had its chance.
Now it's our turn.
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