<p>In this episode, Joel sits down with Brett Perkins from Journey Worship Co. and discusses their song "Come To The Lord", working out, being a positive voice in a negative Christian culture, and being really really ridiculously good-looking.</p>

In this episode, Joel sits down with Brett Perkins from Journey Worship Co. and discusses their song "Come To The Lord", working out, being a positive voice in a negative Christian culture, and being really really ridiculously good-looking.

Brett Perkins (Journey Worship Co.) & Fran Times

<p>As an associate professor of music and worship and part-time worship pastor, Cliff has spent years thinking deeply about the songs that we sing together as a church during our corporate worship services. Yet, instead of being another deconstructing voice, Cliff seeks to foster thought-provoking and edifying conversations with folks who create and lead the songs we sing in corporate worship.&nbsp;</p>

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As an associate professor of music and worship and part-time worship pastor, Cliff has spent years thinking deeply about the songs that we sing together as a church during our corporate worship services. Yet, instead of being another deconstructing voice, Cliff seeks to foster thought-provoking and edifying conversations with folks who create and lead the songs we sing in corporate worship. 

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