Well, I don't know about you, but some people like to take a flight and sleep, not talk to anybody. And other people just love to talk and I love to talk , so I struck up a conversation with my next guest, Brian Blackshaw. And it turns out we were going to the same conference. Shout out to Dr. Fab in San Diego. We talked the whole plane ride and became fast friends. Let me tell you a little bit about Brian Blackshaw. He's the managing partner at Blackshaw Partners, LLC. It's one of the most successful executive search firms in North America.