In this episode, host Rob Foley is joined by Jack Symons of Gamban.
In this podcast episode, the host and guest delve into the crucial first step of addressing a problem: self-awareness. They stress the importance of individuals recognizing their own issues or problems before taking any further action. It is made clear that the tool being discussed is not intended for enforcement or for someone else to install on another person's device without their knowledge. Instead, it is specifically designed for individuals who are already aware of their problem. The guest further emphasizes that self-awareness is crucial and should be the initial step in addressing any issue. The conversation also explores the significance of implementing blocks and limits on platforms to effectively manage these problems. Overall, the episode highlights self-awareness as the fundamental first step in addressing a problem.
The episode also delves into the importance of understanding the harm caused by certain behaviors, with a specific focus on gambling. The host and guest acknowledge that vices like gambling can initially be enjoyable but can quickly spiral out of control. The guest shares personal experiences with gambling and witnessing the negative consequences it can have on others.
The guest emphasizes the need for additional support beyond mere willpower to resist the temptation to gamble. They introduce the concept of "won't power," which emphasizes actively choosing not to engage in harmful behaviors like gambling.
The severity of gambling addiction is discussed, with the guest recounting a personal setback where they lost a significant amount of money in a short period of time. They highlight that such stories are more common than people might think.
When discussing the most addictive forms of gambling, the guest identifies slots and casino games as the most harmful. They mention that approximately 75% of the people using their product are engaged in slots and casino gambling due to the volatility of these games.
The guest also draws attention to the transparency of the gambling business model, describing it as designed to extract cash from individuals. They compare this to the harm caused by social media, which they describe as more obscure. It is emphasized that when participating in gambling, individuals are willingly giving their money to the industry.
Overall, the episode underscores the importance of understanding the harm caused by gambling and the need for additional support beyond willpower to resist engaging in harmful behaviours.
Key times
[00:01:14] The current state of gambling.
[00:05:06] Gambling acceptance in culture.
[00:09:14] Gambling transparency and harm.
[00:12:14] Unusual approach to retention.
[00:16:20] Efficacy in gambling operators.
[00:21:02] Bizarre gambling preferences.
[00:28:08] Limits and loss chasing behavior.
[00:30:17] Users removing the software.
[00:34:03] Making gambling safer for individuals.
[00:38:10] Social enterprise vs. charity
[00:42:30] Actual solutions tend to die.
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