In this episode, Gene Fulton joins Gary Proctor to break down the real business of decorating — from branding and earnings to wallpapering, spraying and winning the right type of clients.

Gene shares why decorators must stop giving away discounts on materials, how to qualify clients properly and why building a solid portfolio leads to consistent, high-value work. They dive into the power of networking with interior designers, staying ahead of industry trends and investing in quality products to stand out in a crowded market.

Whether you're new to the trade or looking to elevate your decorating business, this conversation is packed with insights, practical advice and real-world experience you can apply straight away.

In the very first episode of the Brush Wizards Podcast, Gary sits down with VIP member Jessica Hazard for an honest chat about decorating, tools, mindset, confidence and life on the tools. We talk about the real stuff decorators deal with every day — wins, challenges, funny moments and the importance of community.

This is a relaxed, real conversation that sets the tone for what this podcast is all about… decorators connecting, learning and supporting each other.

If you're a painter or decorator who wants to feel part of something bigger, this one’s for you.