We sit down with Pastor Bryan Loritts to talk about race and his upcoming book. Pastor Bryan Loritts is the Lead Pastor of Abundant Life Church in Silicon Valley, California. He also serves as the President of the Kainos Movement, an organization committed to seeing the multi-ethnic church become the new normal in our world. Bryan serves on the board of trustees for Biola University. Pastor Bryan Loritts is the author of five different book on multiple topics. Interview by Daniel KunkelProduced by Scott BolinSong by Joel Adam Russell