We are back! Kind of.

Enjoy this round table discussion with Chris Nye and Naseem Khalili where we discuss the issues are facing our faith today. We discuss politics, life for the church post-pandemic, and deconstruction.

The podcast will be back soon! Also check Naseem's podcast Nas-Talgia out, it is amazing. 

Season 4 of Everything In Between TBA!

D.L. Mayfield author of Myth of the American Dream and Assimilate or Go Home. And a sad sad week... Jessica's last episode as co-host. We spend time reminiscing and sharing memories of having her on the podcast. 

Stay tuned for what's next for the podcast! 

Vivian Mabuni author of Open Hands Willing Hearts and our Cru colleague! In this episode we talk about her story, ministry journey, surviving cancer and much much more.

And then, Jessica and Daniel discuss the term "white blessings"...

ALSO. Support Your Friends this week is our dear friend Thrifty Mindy! Check her out here: https://www.instagram.com/thriftymindyy/

We are back with, Dr. Efrem Smith! He is the pastor of Bay Side Church Midtown and CEO of World Impact. He’s the author of several books, including his latest, “Killing Us Softly.”

An update for this week. #BlackLivesMatter

Listen to Jemar Tisby's episode here.
Listen to Karen Gonzalez's episode here.
Listen to Sandra Van Opstal's episode here.
Listen to Propaganda and Dr. Alma Petty's episode here. 

Fred Mok, Church planter of Quicksilver Church in the Bay Area. Where do we begin with this tank top wearing, Jesus loving, sweet man? Well we begin with this podcast, which was attempted three times! In this episode, Fred and Daniel explore their deep rooted friendship and Fred's soon to be church, Quicksilver. 

After the episode, Jessica and Daniel talk about how we should respond to consistent  racial injustices and deaths of Black people that plague our country.

To learn more about Fred, follow him here.

Also, check out our girl Sarina and her new business Incomplete Goods! 

This week on the program we have the wonderful Trillia Newbell! Trillia has done so much that the question is, what hasn't she done? The answer, not much. She been involved in politics, once was a journalist, now author, broadcaster, and former fitness coach. Truly a talented woman that tells stories that point to the Cross, and we loved talking to her!

After the program, Jessica and Daniel talk about reopening churches, Daniel's elbow shenanigans, celery juice, and of course we support our friend Ari Jimenez (AKA Aricycled)!

Learn more about Trillia here.
Support Ari on this page.

Tullian Tchividjian, pastor of Sanctuary Church in Florida. Author of One Way Love. Grandson of the man, the myth Billy Graham.

Tullian, is a pastor who has a story to tell and we loved having him on to discuss life, redemption, and grace.

Jess and Daniel talk after the episode about the ending of an era, Jess moving and her no longer being Daniel's boss...

Support You Friends this week is Weekend Creative they produce amazing content, including PMS vitamins, trust me. 

Dr. Soong-Chan Rah author of The Next Evangelicalism and Prophetic Lament and professor at North Park University in Chicago. Dr. Soong-Chan Rah is easily the smartest person we have ever had on the program, he has degrees from Harvard, Columbia, Gordon Conwell, and Duke. Daniel talks with him about lamenting, doctrine of discovery, and how he was able to go to college forever...

Jessica and Daniel discuss lamenting and victory after the interview and we support our friend Chris Chu! 

This one is a goodie! 

She. Is. Here. RHB.

This week we have on everyones hero, Ruth Haley Barton. Ruth has authored several books including her most recent work, Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership.

We talk with Ruth about the rhythms of solitude and silence, having grace on our attempts to be with Jesus, teams (well shouldn't call them that), and how to look for hope in a pandemic. We celebrate, mourn, and laugh. Enjoy.

Jessica catches us up on the move. Daniel keeps blogging, and Naseem Khalili makes an appearance this week on support your friends!

Daniel and Naseem's blog, Secretly Thriving in a Pandemic and Ashamed to Admit It. Also check out the Transformation Center Resources.