Build With Bitcoin

This recap by co-hosts Lynne Bairstow and Israel Munoz pulls seven recent conversations into one map of where the industry is actually going: financial services for long-term holders, custody that can survive real incidents, financial infrastructure, regulation that both constrains and professionalizes the market, and the convergence of energy with AI and Bitcoin.

For founders and operators, the through-line is simple. The asset class is maturing. The companies that win from here will not just sell exposure. They will own a durable slice of custody, savings, credit, energy, or agentic finance built on Bitcoin.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the episode and recent highlights

02:09 Overview of featured guests and their focus areas

04:10 Growth of Bitcoin services for long-term holders

07:04 Evolution of custody solutions after security breaches

14:07 Regulatory landscape and notable legal cases

24:12 Convergence of energy, AI, and Bitcoin technologies

28:11 Emerging business models and future outlook

References

https://www.buildwithbitcoin.xyz/https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin⏤ ⏤ ⏤

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Thinking is becoming a manufactured good. Liam Nelson of Early Riders walks through the Singularity Stack — the conversion chain from raw energy to compute, models, harnesses, agents, and final settlement, and why Bitcoin sits at the end of that stack.

This is a builder-and-allocator conversation: energy bottlenecks, the economics of models vs. harnesses, agent-to-agent markets, and why technological deflation and hard money pull in opposite directions. If you allocate capital, build infrastructure, or think in Bitcoin as the hurdle rate, this is the map.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Liam Nelson and Early Riders

03:45 The shift from high to low time preference investing

04:37 Creating the Singularity Stack: framework and motivation

05:36 AI adoption and parallels with internet growth

06:28 The analogy of electricity and technological progress

13:24 The nine layers of the Singularity Stack

22:24 Energy as the foundation of the stack

26:28 Energy bottlenecks and infrastructure challenges

33:03 Models, harnesses, and the economics of AI models

37:55 The role of agents, identity, and coordination

44:24 Innovations like Hugging Face and open source robots

45:33 The agent to agent economy and future productivity

50:22 Inflation versus deflation in technology and money

55:01 Key takeaways and future opportunities

Resources

https://earlyriders.com/

https://earlyriders.com/singularity-stack/

Build With Bitcoin:

https://www.buildwithbitcoin.xyz/

https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin

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Emily Barron, CEO and co-founder of Zaria, on why Bitcoin is becoming institutional collateral — and why servicing, not origination, is the bottleneck.

Zaria builds the operational backbone for digital asset-backed loans: 24/7 collateral monitoring, primary and backup servicing, agency functions, and advisory. Emily traces the path from capital-markets work to Bitcoin collateral, the post-2022 reset in digital-asset lending, and Zaria’s bid to become a national trust bank so structured credit can treat BTC like a real fiduciary asset.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Emily Barron and Zaria

03:54 The founding story of Zaria and its core mission

09:05 Why Bitcoin is a unique collateral asset

11:59 Recent market developments and institutional involvement

18:07 Zaria's product offerings and market strategy

24:07 Lessons from market crises and the resilience of Bitcoin-backed loans

30:04 Regulatory landscape and future opportunities

35:47 Building a trust bank for digital assets

41:46 Funding, growth, and competitive landscape

50:02 Risks, challenges, and the future of digital asset finance

Resources

https://zaria.xyz/

Build With Bitcoin:

https://www.buildwithbitcoin.xyz/https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin

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In this episode, Stu Lackey, CEO and co-founder of Sound HSA, explains how Bitcoin can live inside a Health Savings Account — not as an ETF, but as actual bitcoin in a self-directed, tax-advantaged HSA.

Stu covers why HSAs are one of the strongest vehicles in the U.S. tax code and why pairing them with bitcoin’s fixed supply fits rising healthcare costs. He walks through how SOUND HSA works: cash in, buy real bitcoin, multi-sig custody, an IRS-designated trustee, and the path from idea to live product. You’ll also hear the founder story — two decades in health-tech, the balance-sheet moment that crystallized the idea, partnerships, and building a compliant product on existing HSA rails.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Stu Lackey and Sound HSA

02:10 Stu's background in healthcare and discovery of Bitcoin

04:00 What is an HSA and its benefits

06:48 The vision for integrating Bitcoin into HSAs

09:58 Market opportunity and initial conviction

16:48 How the Sound HSA product works step-by-step

20:00 Custody, partnerships, and security measures

25:00 Business model, monetization, and fundraising journey

28:59 Use of funds and growth strategy

32:04 Bitcoin treasury management and long-term vision

35:49 Go-to-market strategy and customer acquisition

40:01 Innovative features like move-to-earn and wellness programs

43:12 Advice for newcomers and industry outlook

52:04 Getting involved and final thoughts

Resources:

https://soundhsa.com/

Build With Bitcoin:

https://www.buildwithbitcoin.xyz/https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin

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Cory Klippsten, founder and CEO of Swan Bitcoin, discusses recent hardware wallet vulnerabilities, the realities of self-custody, and rebuilding trust after security incidents.

He covers Swan’s custody options, industry consolidation in Bitcoin hardware, and lessons from six years of building, from education and institutional clients to long-term thinking and community.

A grounded conversation on security, trust, and building lasting infrastructure on Bitcoin.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Cory and Swan Bitcoin

01:45 Recent security vulnerability in Cold Card wallets

05:48 Swan's custody offerings

08:13 Cory's background and vision for Swan

11:53 The importance of education in Bitcoin adoption

15:50 Security best practices and industry standards

20:13 Venture in Bitcoin

23:55 Balancing usability and security

35:55 The role of Bitcoin in resisting tyranny

42:01 Supporting Bitcoin innovation and ecosystem growth

45:51 Resources for new Bitcoin learners

Educational resources:

https://www.swanbitcoin.com/inventing-bitcoin/

https://www.swanbitcoin.com/canon/bitcoin-101/

https://welcome.swanbitcoin.com/

Bitcoin Season Film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaHDsOt2Ovk

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In this episode, Ruben Zweiban and Nico Lechuga of Orange Juice share a different model of private equity: fully acquiring cash-flow businesses, optimizing them with AI, and holding Bitcoin on the balance sheet.

They explain why complete ownership beats traditional PE structures, how AI drives operational leverage, the realities of fundraising for this approach, and why pairing real cash flow with a Bitcoin treasury creates a more resilient, uncorrelated strategy.

A practical conversation for founders, operators, and Bitcoin-native investors focused on sound capital allocation.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Orange Juice and Guests

01:01 What is Orange Juice? The Investment Vehicle

02:19 Difference Between Ego Death Capital and Orange Juice

05:26 Ideal Business Profiles for Orange Juice

07:52 Market Trends and Deal Sourcing

10:45 Team and Leadership at Orange Juice

18:41 Hold Strategy and Long-Term Vision

22:23 Fundraising Experience and Challenges

29:58 Bitcoin Treasury Operations and Mechanics

36:14 Deal Flow and Acquisition Strategy

40:41 Competitive Advantage and First Mover Strategy

44:27 Short-Term Goals and Success Metrics

45:29 Vision for Orange Juice's Future and Public Markets

References

https://orangejuice.com/

https://www.buildwithbitcoin.xyz/https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin

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In this episode, Lauren Rodriguez shares the story of her husband Keonne’s legal battle over Samurai Wallet. We explore the real risks facing innovators in Bitcoin privacy tools and the urgent need for regulatory clarity.

The conversation examines what this case means for open-source development, privacy technology, and the future of Bitcoin innovation. If you’re building on the protocol or care about the freedom to innovate, this episode delivers essential perspective for every entrepreneur in the space.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Case of Samurai Wallet

03:36 The Arrest and Initial Reactions

06:54 Legal Framework and Compliance

09:51 Prosecution's Approach and Evidence

12:57 Judicial Proceedings and Challenges

15:44 Plea Deal and Its Implications

18:46 Public Perception and Misunderstandings

21:59 The Impact of Innovation on Legal Systems

27:35 Understanding CoinJoin and User Control

31:15 Keonne's Vision and Background in Bitcoin

35:08 The Impact of Legal Challenges on Innovators

37:35 Navigating Innovation in a Hostile Jurisdiction

41:01 The Chilling Effect on Development

45:46 Seeking Justice: The Path to a Presidential Pardon

References

https://billandkeonne.org/

https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools

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Prashanth, CEO of Bringin, shares his journey from India to Europe and the real challenges of building Bitcoin infrastructure that works across borders.

We explore how Bringin enables seamless Lightning-powered Bitcoin payments, the regulatory realities of scaling infrastructure, and what the future of global Bitcoin payments looks like, from a founder who is shipping it today.

Key topics:

•⁠ ⁠Prashanth’s path from India to Europe

•⁠ ⁠Building production-grade Bitcoin infrastructure

•⁠ ⁠Lightning Network for cross-border transactions

•⁠ ⁠Regulatory hurdles and scaling Bitcoin payments globally

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Prashanth and Bringin

09:55 Understanding Bringin's Services

13:06 Market Insights and User Demographics

16:09 Regulatory Landscape and Challenges

18:52 Building Bringin: The Founder’s Journey

22:00 Future Expansion and User Experience

27:22 Understanding Customer Needs in Product Development

31:33 Leveraging Bitcoin for Global Value Transfer

32:56 The Role of Lightning Network in Transactions

39:56 Impact of Bitcoin Price on Transaction Volumes

42:25 Organic Growth Strategies for Bringin

44:42 Future Expansion Plans and Market Strategy

References

https://x.com/bringinxyzhttps://x.com/prashanthc123

https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin

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In this highlights episode, hosts Israel and Lynne reflect on five recent conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin. They celebrate hitting the 100-episode milestone and synthesize the key themes that emerged across the discussions.

From Bitcoin’s role as a foundational protocol for innovation to rapid adoption across emerging markets and the Global South, the conversations explored both the technical and human sides of building on Bitcoin. The hosts dive into the untapped programmability of the protocol, the ongoing challenges around narrative and user experience, and the growing intersection between Bitcoin and AI — including how Bitcoin could serve as a neutral medium for AI agents in a deflationary future.

Whether you’re a builder, entrepreneur, or developer working on the protocol, this episode distills the most important signals from recent discussions and where the Bitcoin ecosystem is heading next.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Summary

04:34 Bitcoin as a Protocol: Building the Future

09:16 Emerging Markets: Bitcoin's Rapid Adoption

14:59 User Experience and Narrative Challenges

18:50 Unlocking Bitcoin's Programmability

21:18 AI and Bitcoin: A Converging Future

References

https://www.buildwithbitcoin.xyz/https://x.com/BuildwBitcoin⏤ ⏤ ⏤

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Fernando Nikolic joins us to explore Bitcoin’s evolving narrative from the inside. After moving from Argentina and contributing at Blockstream, he founded Perception, a narrative intelligence platform that tracks and distills real-time conversations around Bitcoin and digital assets.

In this episode, Fernando breaks down why empathy and sharper storytelling have become strategic advantages for Bitcoin adoption. He shares practical lessons on communicating Bitcoin effectively, navigating narrative clarity in an AI-driven world, and what it takes to build in this space. A valuable conversation for founders and builders looking to cut through the noise and shape Bitcoin’s next chapter.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction

06:04 Fernando's Journey: From Argentina to Bitcoin

12:44 Marketing Challenges in the Bitcoin Space

21:00 The Controversy of Bitcoin's Accessibility

27:27 Introducing Perception: A Narrative Intelligence Platform

30:28 Understanding User Needs in Content Creation

36:40 The Rise of Information Tribes

42:32 Bootstrapping a Business: The Entrepreneurial Journey

50:35 Adapting to Rapid AI Evolution

56:01 Communicating the Bitcoin Narrative Effectively

59:17 TechTalks 2026: Exploring Bitcoin's Future

References

Perception MCP - https://perception.toBuild With Bitcoin Podcast - https://buildwithbitcoin.com

https://x.com/basedlayerhttps://x.com/BuildwBitcoin

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