Today we flip the script and talk to Drew (ERG Builders) — a builder who went from being kicked out of school to running a 15-person crew. No fluff, just site truth: pricing, clients, back-office pain, hiring, mental health, and the eternal builders vs sparks banter.You can find @ergonsite here - https://www.youtube.com/@ergonsite/videosThank you to @ThePodCollective for the amazing Studio and equipment What’s insideApprenticeship → first company by 20Price work, sites, and why he went soloWord of mouth vs paid directories (and why he binned them)Quote strategy (never cheapest, never dearest—bang in the middle)Back-office reality: paperwork, cash flow, VAT, CISNightmare client stories (scope creep, late payers, material “mystery”) + fixesKeeping a team happy and paid; growing without losing standardsHonest chat on trades mental health & boundariesIf you’re a spark, builder, or any trade running jobs, this will hit home.Like the chat? Subscribe for more real-world trade talks.