In this episode, I sit down with Jason Rogers, CEO & Co-Founder of Invary, to explore an unconventional approach to building a cybersecurity startup—leveraging a tech transfer agreement with the NSA. Jason shares his journey of launching a company around licensed technology, the benefits and challenges that come with it, and why runtime system integrity is becoming a crucial factor in modern security strategies.

We also dive into how AI is changing the cybersecurity landscape, the importance of real-time security validation, and how companies can better protect their systems against evolving threats.

Key Takeaways

🔹 Tech transfer provides a competitive edge – Licensing government-developed technology can offer startups a head start with validated, battle-tested IP.

🔹 Security needs to be proactive, not reactive – Real-time validation of system integrity can prevent breaches before they escalate.

🔹 Collaborative research fuels innovation – Invary works with the NSA and academic institutions to advance security capabilities.

🔹 AI is expanding the attack surface – As AI adoption grows, ensuring system and data integrity will be more critical than ever.

🔹 Zero trust applies to machines too – It’s not enough to verify users—organizations must continuously verify their systems.

Timestamped Highlights

⏳ 00:01 – Introduction to Jason Rogers and Invary’s mission

⏳ 00:49 – How NSA-licensed technology is securing critical systems

⏳ 01:36 – The journey from research-backed tech to startup success

⏳ 02:56 – The challenges and benefits of building a business around licensed IP

⏳ 05:32 – Collaborating with government research teams for innovation

⏳ 09:33 – How engineers adapt to the tech transfer model

⏳ 14:06 – Why runtime integrity is the missing piece in security

⏳ 16:34 – The shift from traditional security models to real-time validation

⏳ 19:27 – AI’s growing attack surface and what it means for security

⏳ 23:28 – Predicting future cybersecurity challenges in an AI-driven world

⏳ 24:00 – How to connect with Jason

Quote from the Episode

“The bad guys collaborate all the time. It’s time for the good guys to do the same.” – Jason Rogers

Connect with Jason Rogers

🔗 Website: Invary.com

🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonlrogers/

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