Success looks incredible from the outside.

But what does it actually cost?

In this episode, entrepreneur, investor and former Pareto FM founder Andrew Hulbert opens up about the reality of entrepreneurship, leadership, burnout, business growth and balancing success with family life.

We talk about building a £50M business, the pressure of ambition, reconnecting with relationships after years of hustle, and what happens when the thing you spent years chasing finally arrives.

This is one of the most honest conversations I’ve had on The Modern Journey.

Andrew opens up about:

• Sacrificing time with family while building his company  

• Reconnecting with friendships after years of hustle  

• Why being present matters more than status  

• Leadership, vulnerability and building high performing teams  

• Fatherhood, success and raising grounded children  

• The future of Facilities Management and modern leadership  

• Why volunteering and relationships matter more than networking tactics  

This episode is for anyone chasing something big while trying not to lose themselves in the process.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro  

01:09 Buying a nature reserve for his children  

05:02 Building a £50M business  

06:03 Why success stopped mattering  

09:35 The season of life Andrew is in now  

12:09 Learning to be present again  

14:34 What ambition gave him  

17:34 What ambition took away  

20:34 The real cost of success  

23:33 Rebuilding friendships after business success  

27:36 Why men need to talk more  

28:22 When a business becomes bigger than you  

30:24 Did he actually enjoy the lifestyle?  

33:18 Fatherhood and raising grounded children  

40:27 The danger of instant gratification  

41:44 What people misunderstand about leadership  

47:20 Why volunteering changed his career  

52:34 What Facilities Management actually is  

54:40 The future of the FM industry  

59:54 Why young people should consider FM  

01:02:17 Building teams with 100% retention  

01:08:23 Why diversity in leadership matters  

01:12:35 Succession planning and leadership ego  

01:17:19 Advice for ambitious young people  

01:23:50 What this season of life requires from him  

01:24:48 Final reflections  

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