In this episode Frank Cilluffo sits down with Anjana Rajan, the Assistant National Cyber Director for technology security at the Office of the National Cyber Director in the White House. Their discussion sheds light on the challenges and complexities of reshaping the cybersecurity landscape with better buildings blocks.  Together, they explore the White House's call for broader use of memory safe programming languages, and how her office is working with the private sector to find ways to eliminate entire categories of cyber vulnerabilities. ONCD Report - Back to the Building Blocks: A Path Toward Secure and Measurable Software