In this episode, Kate chats with Palmela Slim. Pamela is an author, business coach, and co-founder with her husband Darryl of the Main Street Learning Lab in Mesa, Arizona. She has written three books: Escape from Cubicle Nation (named Best Small Business and Entrepreneur book of 2009 from 800 CEO Read), Body of Work (2014 with Penguin Portfolio), and her latest The Widest Net.

Kate and Pam chat about community building, the creative process, and the magic of muses. Pam shares her advice on writing a book, building community, and growing a business your way. They also discussed creative habits and rituals, and why you don't need to be an entrepreneur to be cool and creative.

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