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Today's episode is with Matt Tucker,  a titan in the industry who was formerly the President and COO of Olo, and is now the Head of Tock. 

Matt and Zack discuss: 

• The 'cockroach' strategy—a testament to the relentless hustle required to weather the tempests of industry uncertainties
• Ben Horowitz's "The Hard Thing About Hard Things"
• Matt's insights on building teams based on trust
• More

Thanks, Matt!