In this episode of the Business of Laravel podcast, Matt Stauffer welcomes back Ian Landsman to discuss his latest venture, Outro , a tool he’s currently building to help podcasters organize and monetize their content. They explore the evolution of podcasting tools, the challenges of market research, and the importance of building with community feedback. Ian shares insights into his development process, how AI fits into his workflow, and the technical decisions shaping Outro’s future.

• Matt Stauffer Twitter 
• Tighten Website 
• Outro
• Article on AI Coding Claims
• Mostly Technical
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Editing and transcription sponsored by Tighten.