Damon Frank sits down with Sam Jones, a marriage and family therapist based in Chicago, to discuss the topic of building self-esteem in sobriety. Sam's expertise in therapy, both within and outside the recovery community, provides a rich backdrop to the conversation. They explore the essence of self-esteem, distinguish it from ego, and discuss the internal voices that challenge individuals in sobriety. This episode is a must-watch for anyone seeking to understand the nuances of self-esteem and how it plays a critical role in the journey towards sustained recovery.

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