Can one self-taught editor change how an entire industry promotes its content?
Anthony Smith is the former Diary Of A CEO trailer editor who helped transform podcast promotion from simple social media clips into cinematic, emotionally charged miniature movies.
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After struggling to break into the film and television industry without money, contacts or formal training, Ant started his own production company and taught himself to edit because he could not afford to employ an editor.
That decision eventually led him to work on major campaigns involving Bond, Star Wars, Disney and Marvel before joining The Diary Of A CEO when the team consisted of fewer than ten people.
Over the next four and a half years, Ant created or oversaw more than 450 podcast trailers, helping turn Steven Bartlett’s podcast into one of the world’s biggest media brands. His documentary-inspired storytelling, cinematic sound design and emotionally driven editing style helped redefine how podcasts, creators and brands promote long-form content.
You will hear:
▪️Working on campaigns involving Bond, Star Wars, Disney and Marvel
▪️Joining Diary Of A CEO when the team had fewer than ten people
▪️Why Steven Bartlett told Ant not to study other podcasts
▪️Turning podcast trailers into cinematic miniature documentaries
▪️The storytelling principles behind more than 450 trailers
▪️How music, sound design and editing can provoke emotion
▪️Why Diary Of A CEO’s trailers helped define the brand
▪️Why copying the Diary Of A CEO style will not work for every business
▪️The 15-point mindset checklist used to train trailer editors
▪️Why brands must create content from first principles
▪️The difference between building a brand and chasing attention
▪️Why going viral can become an addictive and destructive cycle
▪️How vanity metrics cause brands to abandon their identity
▪️Why a million views may produce no customers or meaningful community
▪️How AI and human creativity can work together
0:00 — Has Ant Smith changed the podcasting industry?
4:00 — Growing up believing success happened to other people
8:17 — Working on Bond, Star Wars, Disney and Marvel campaigns
13:10 — Pressure, burnout and becoming addicted to difficult work
17:50 — Joining Diary Of A CEO for an “easier” creative role
19:49 — How cinematic trailers transformed the podcast
21:15 — Turning a podcast into a global media show
23:31 — Ant’s first day with Jonny Wilkinson and Wretch 32
30:01 — Why Steven Bartlett told him not to watch other podcasts
32:10 — Creating the first Diary Of A CEO trailer
34:05 — The first and final trailers that bookended Ant’s journey
37:28 — Creating and overseeing more than 450 trailers
38:25 — An estimated 1.5 billion episode views and what comes next
40:24 — Why copying successful content causes industries to stagnate
47:18 — How trailers helped define the Diary Of A CEO brand
48:50 — Why brand building should be treated as an art form
55:22 — Creating different identities for new podcast brands
59:59 — The 15-point mindset checklist behind effective trailers
1:01:32 — What brands get wrong about short-form content
1:03:27 — Why going viral can become a destructive addiction
1:05:28 — The dopamine crash that follows viral success
1:09:45 — Leaving the world’s biggest podcast 48 hours earlier
1:10:23 — Why success left Ant feeling empty and worthless
1:12:49 — The friendships behind Diary Of A CEO’s growth
1:15:10 — Leaving a powerful brand and questioning your own value
1:16:54 — What comes after Diary Of A CEO?
1:17:40 — Stepping into the unknown without another job
1:18:14 — Building a better relationship between AI and creativity
1:20:29 — Challenging the belief that employment equals safety
1:22:07 — Reflecting on a career that changed podcast promotion