"If you're worried your kid hates reading, maybe start by showing them you can sit down with a damn book. Kids do what we do, not what we say." —Rae Foote
In This Episode: We talk to Rae Foote, the unicorn who went from running logistics in military manufacturing (yes, actual missiles) to wrangling the chaos of marketing tech at Hachette Book Group in NYC—all while moonlighting as a champion for children's literacy. Rae's journey is less "lifelong calling" and more "epic faceplant after faceplant, but make it fashion"—falling into publishing, falling for NYC, and now rallying adults to stop outsourcing kids' education to TikTok.
What We Cover:
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How military manufacturing makes you chill in a tech "crisis" (spoiler: it's not that deep, Karen)
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Rae's "accidental" road into publishing and why napalming the five-year plan is sometimes the only way forward
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The literacy crisis no one wants to talk about—adults reading less, kids getting dumber (the stats are brutal, sorry)
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Why your Kindle obsession doesn't count if your kid never sees you with a book—and how Hachette's Raising Readers project is about to call everyone out
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Life lessons from screwing up, not coddling kids, and why "fuck around and find out" is elite parenting
Guest Bio: Rae Foote is Senior Manager, Marketing Technology Ops at Hachette Book Group, where she MacGyvers book-selling systems, translates between marketers and engineers, and leads bold new initiatives like Raising Readers. She's also on the Associate Board for Reading Partners NYC, advocating for kids' literacy because, frankly, someone has to give a damn. A California native turned New Yorker, Rae is allergic to empty platitudes, swears by paperbacks, and has never met a broken process she couldn't fix (or roast).
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rae-foote/
New York Junior League: nyjl.org
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenyjl/
Reading Partners NYC: https://readingpartners.org/
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Hachette Book Group: https://hachettebookgroup.com/
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Selected Links From This Episode:
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Rae Foote on LinkedIn
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Reading Partners
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Hachette Book Group
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Show Notes & Timestamps:
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00:08 — Welcome, Rae: Dan was a kindergarten teacher in China (no, really)
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01:13 — Rae's convoluted career: "tripping, falling, and stumbling" into publishing
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03:37 — How tech "emergencies" are not real emergencies (Military vs. Startup Panic)
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07:54 — The myth of the business degree—just start doing the work
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10:11 — Publishing's digital mess, why Rae loves solving problems that shouldn't exist
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13:20 — Are we actually getting dumber? Declining literacy, social media, and how nobody reads anything longer than a LinkedIn post
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19:15 — Hachette's Raising Readers initiative: Kids mimic what you do, not what you tell them
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22:13 — Why men read less, and WTF that means for raising boys
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23:32 — Book club trauma, lending books to dates, and always getting them back
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36:55 — It takes a village: Advocating for kids with New York Junior League & Reading Partners
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41:53 — Parenting, participation trophies, and the fine art of failing well
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45:46 — Teaching kids they can do hard things and not just whine about it
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48:34 — Show up, get wet, don't wait for perfect—life advice, or just podcasting as usual
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50:45 — Links Reading Partners, Hachette Book Group, and yes, go read a book, not just this web page