In this episode, Drew and Heidi talk about burnout — what it actually feels like, how it sneaks up on you, and the stories we start telling ourselves when we’ve been pouring into everyone else for too long.

They get into the emotional exhaustion that can come from constantly showing up for people, the pressure of always being “on,” and what happens when you start feeling unappreciated or disconnected from the very things that once gave you energy.

The conversation also explores the difference between needing rest versus trying to emotionally detach, and how pulling away from relationships, people, or purpose can sometimes make burnout even worse.

From business to personal relationships, Drew and Heidi unpack what burnout has looked like in their own lives, how they’ve navigated it, and what it takes to reconnect with yourself when you’ve hit a wall.

At the end of the day, burnout isn’t always about doing too much — sometimes it’s about losing connection to the things that once made you feel alive.