Host Brian Wesolowski talks with Lisa Hayes and Jadzia Butler to discuss CDT's amicus brief in the pending Apple vs. FBI case. With all the buzz continuing to swirl around this issue and the San Bernardino shooter's iPhone, these three discuss why it was imperative we join the fight, what our brief entails, and what impact we hope to have.

PLUS – Brian collects CDTer's who will be joining us in the fun down in Austin this year for SXSW Interactive 2016. See what all the excitement's about!

Attribution: sounds used from Psykophobia, Taira Komori, BenKoning, Zabuhailo, bloomypetal, guitarguy1985, bmusic92, and offthesky of freesound.org.