Olivia found out about the podcast thanks to Nanchang project. We sat down prior to October 2025 and talked about research, study, and working as  Pre- K educator.

Some cursing shared 50minutes in.

Enjoy our debrief on Summer I turned Pretty and other YA stories (apologies for the spoilers if you are watching). I was also surprised Olivia is the younger adoptee sibling and has an older adoptee sister from China and a younger sister who is biological to their parents. It was a lot of fun and we both joined the Nanchang 5k project back in October.