Dr Anne Elvey joins Kylie and Fran for Advent 4 to talk about Mary’s visit to Elizabeth (Luke 1:39-45) and Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1: 46-59).

We mention Anne’s book Reading the Magnificat in Australia;

Anne’s poem Sun Glint Drift: On visiting Elizabeth in the Western Australian Wheatbelt Mary sings a Song,

and Kathy Jetnil-Kijiner’s poem she read at the UN Climate Summit.

There are a number of First Nations women writing strong poetry in Australia at present, in particular: Evelyn Araluen, Ali Cobby Eckermann, Natalie Harkin, Jeanine Leane, Ellen Van Neerven, and Alison Whittaker. The Lukan Magnificat might point us toward listening to contemporary Indigenous women’s voices. Also composer and opera singer, Deborah Cheetham.

We also mentioned The Englewood Review of Books Podcast episode with John Swinton and Andrew Root on our relationship and understanding of time/waiting.