In this episode of the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet and Joyce discuss the second indictment stemming from special counsel John Durham’s investigation into the origins of the FBI’s Russia probe. They also break down the trial of Elizabeth Holmes, the disgraced founder of biotech company Theranos, and the first lawsuits brought under Texas’s restrictive abortion law.

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Joyce Vance is a former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, a professor at the University of Alabama Law School, and an MSNBC legal analyst. 

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“Backstage” is a special segment of Now & Then exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. In this installment, Heather and Joanne reflect on their personal relationships with New York City. 

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In this bonus from Stay Tuned, documentary filmmaker Ken Burns talks about why he doesn’t often choose obscure subjects and how that reflects on his larger historical philosophy. 

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