“Backstage” is a special segment of “Now & Then” exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. In this installment, Heather and Joanne reflect on their experiences with historical reenactors and talk through their memories of the 1976 American Bicentennial.

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In this bonus from Stay Tuned, interdisciplinary artist and mentalist Derek DelGaudio discusses what he learned about justice from growing up with a lesbian mother. 

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This week on the CAFE Insider podcast, Dan Goldman guest co-hosts with Joyce Vance while Preet is on vacation. Dan served as House Majority Counsel during the first impeachment of Donald Trump, and before that, he worked as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York under Preet. In the episode, Joyce and Dan break down the reports that Manhattan DA Cy Vance is close to bringing charges against the Trump Organization, and the suspension of Rudy Giuliani’s law license. They also assess the fairness of the sentence Derek Chauvin received for murdering George Floyd.

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Joyce Vance is a former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, a professor at the University of Alabama Law School, and an MSNBC legal analyst. 

To access the full transcript of Joyce’s note, head to CAFE.com: https://cafe.com/notes-from-contributors/note-from-joyce-turning-covid-guilt-into-compassion/