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Joyce Vance is a former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, a professor at the University of Alabama Law School, and an MSNBC legal analyst. 

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In this episode of the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet and Joyce discuss:

– The latest January 6th developments, including reports that former President Donald Trump took presidential documents to Mar-a-Lago instead of giving them to the National Archives, the GOP’s classification of the 1/6 attack as “legitimate political discourse,” and the January 6th Committee’s reported meeting with former DOJ official Jeffrey Clark in which he invoked the 5th Amendment more than 100 times; 

– The lawsuit filed by Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman (ret.), a witness in Trump’s first impeachment, against Donald Trump Jr. & Rudy Giuliani for witness intimidation; and

– The conviction of lawyer Michael Avenatti for defrauding his former client, Stormy Daniels.

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