In this first ever episode of Call A Mate, I give my old high school mate Shane Hill a ring. Life’s moved on a bit since those days — he’s now a teacher, a husband, a dad of three, and a loyal Newcastle Knights supporter.

We chat about the strange guilt that can come with being a parent, what it’s like going from sitting in the classroom to teaching at the front of one, and how life changes as you grow up.

Just a 20-minute phone call between two mates catching up — the kind of conversation most of us have but rarely stop to think about.