Wicked Problems - Climate Tech Conversations

Can Democracy survive the collapse of the Gulf Stream?


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This episode of 'Wicked Problems,' hosted by Richard Delavan, delves into the catastrophic potential impacts of climate change, particularly focusing on the possible shutdown of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and its global repercussions. Featuring insights from Dr. Anatol Lieven from the Quincy Institute, the discussion explores the tangible risks posed by climate tipping points, such as radical shifts in weather patterns, economic hardship, and political instability. The conversation extends to potential migration crises triggered by these environmental changes, illustrated by real-world examples like severe flooding in the US and UK this week. The episode also criticizes the politicization of climate science and examines the ramifications of defense and security policies, especially concerning the U.S. under a future Trump administration.

Bonus segments for subscribers include some highlights from New York Climate Week including Stefan Rahmstorf of Potsdam Institute, talking about the worrying evidence of AMOC. And we analyse a surprising speaker for the New York Times to invite to Climate Week: Kevin Roberts, President of the Heritage Foundation, regarding climate skepticism and the impact of policies like Project 2025 on global climate and political dynamics.


10:42 Dr Anatol Lieven and AMOC

38:56 Climate Week Bonus - AMOC

44:01 Slightly Deranged Kevin Roberts Takes

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