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Can Leaders Make Things Right After Causing Harm? | Joshua Harris


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Is there a way for leaders to make things right after causing real harm?

In this episode of Holy Uncertain, hosts Lauren Ranzino and Chris McLeod are joined by Joshua Harris, author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye, to reflect on purity culture, the damage it caused, and what it looks like to confront the consequences of ideas that shaped an entire generation.

Together, they talk about the shame, fear, and distorted theology that purity culture embedded in so many of us—and what happens when a leader begins to listen to the people harmed by their work. Josh shares the long, uneasy process of rethinking his beliefs, stepping away from systems that rewarded certainty, and trying to respond with honesty rather than defensiveness.

This conversation doesn’t offer easy closure. Instead, it explores repentance as something slower, costlier, and more complicated than simply a public apology.

If you’ve ever wondered whether repair is possible after real harm has been done, this episode offers a thoughtful place to begin.

For more from Josh Harris:
https://joshharris.com
Instagram: @harris.josh

Listen to Josh’s Podcast:
Clear & Loud with Josh Harris

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Holy UncertainBy Lauren Ranzino and Chris McLeod