After two years of lockdowns, struggling economies, crippled health services and hundreds of thousands of deaths, several European countries are hoping to put the pandemic in the past. Soon, they say, it'll be time to treat Covid-19 like any number of other illnesses we already live with. But is that possible? And is now the right time?

Join host Hashem Ahelbarra.

With guests:

Tikki Pangestu - Visiting Professor, Yoo Loo Lin School of Medicine at the National University of Singapore and a former WHO Director specialising in pandemic preparedness and global health governance.
Dr. Mohga Kamal-Yanni - Senior Health Policy Adviser, People's Vaccine Alliance.
Chris Smith - Editor and Host, 'The Naked Scientists' podcast.