Tom and Will talk mental health, but with the caveat that the term isn’t necessarily negative. Your mental health is simply the state of your mind at any given time. The guys talk about several challenges that young men face when it comes to mental health, including acknowledging and processing emotion, struggling with a desire for independence, and the ever-present “standard” of what it means to be a man and how they measure up.

The guys argue over how significant a role isolation and loneliness play in mental health, but both agree that finding a supportive older male to serve as a mentor and role model is a strong play. Tom shares his thoughts on contentment and how finding contentment in everyday life is one of the greatest boosts to a strong metal game.