In this powerful and deeply personal episode, hosts Chris and Candice engage in a heartfelt discussion on the true meaning and impact of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in both professional and personal settings. Sparked by recent news about DEI team layoffs at a major tech company, the conversation unfolds as a necessary reminder that DEI is more than a corporate buzzword—it is a practice, a responsibility, and a cultural shift that must be actively cultivated and protected.
Candice, a DEI advocate and member of a Women in Technology leadership group, offers clear and compelling definitions of diversity, equity, and inclusion. She explains how each concept is interdependent, likening them to threads in a quilt—one cannot exist meaningfully without the others. Chris adds his perspective by sharing practical shorthand and workplace metaphors to make the ideas more accessible, including the well-known visual of different-height individuals trying to see over a fence, illustrating the difference between equality and equity.
The episode delves into the importance of intentionality in organizational change, with both hosts recalling their experience working to diversify IT leadership councils on campus. These efforts led to measurable improvements in representation and culture, underscoring how inclusive voices can drive systemic change. Chris highlights how his own IT team at the Gies College of Business evolved from being male-dominated to having gender-balanced leadership—progress made possible by rethinking hiring practices, including simplifying job requirements to open doors to more candidates.
But this conversation doesn’t shy away from the emotional labor and challenges involved in DEI work. Candice shares powerful stories about the microaggressions she and her children have faced, emphasizing the need to empower marginalized voices rather than tokenizing them. The discussion on allyship centers on actionable steps—how leaders can amplify voices in meetings, address exclusionary behaviors, and pivot from “rescuing” individuals to advocating for cultural transformation.
In a particularly vulnerable moment, Chris reflects on his own fears of “saying the wrong thing” as a white man in DEI spaces. Candice responds with grace, highlighting the importance of making mistakes, learning, and growing. The episode ends with mutual reflections on intersectionality and the desire to be seen as whole individuals—not merely representatives of a demographic group.
This conversation is a compelling reminder that DEI is not about checking boxes, but about fostering empathy, listening deeply, and committing to long-term, systemic change.
Note: Near the end of the podcast, Chris brings up the concept of intersectionality. For more information on this important topic, please see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDtnfQ9FHc and https://www.ted.com/talks/kimberle_crenshaw_the_urgency_of_intersectionality
Candice Solomon-Strutz and Chris Tidrick are IT leaders at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and collectively have more than 50 years of experience working in higher education. Candice is currently the Senior Director of IT Partners at the College of Applied Health Sciences and Chris is the Chief Information Officer and Senior Director of IT Partners at the Gies College of Business.