Matt Chorley is joined by former leader of the Scottish Conservatives Ruth Davidson on the union, indyrefs and why she's ruling herself out as Boris Johnson's next Scottish secretary.  PLUS columnists India Knight and James Marriott on the day's news and discussing why are we so patriotic<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Matt Chorley is joined by former leader of the Scottish Conservatives Ruth Davidson on the union, indyrefs and why she's ruling herself out as Boris Johnson's next Scottish secretary. PLUS columnists India Knight and James Marriott on the day's news and discussing why are we so patriotic Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt Chorley is joined by former leader of the Scottish Conservatives Ruth Davidson on the union, indyrefs and why she's ruling herself out as Boris Johnson's next Scottish secretary.&nbsp; PLUS columnists India Knight and James Marriott on the day's news and discussing why are we so patriotic Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Can't handle the Ruth

Hugo Rifkind unpacks the the politics of the day - and the stuff that's even more important - with the brightest brains from the Times and Sunday Times. You can listen to Hugo on DAB, smart speaker or app 10am-1pm Monday to Friday. If you like what you hear, then read more at&nbsp;<a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.thetimes.com/</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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Hugo Rifkind unpacks the the politics of the day - and the stuff that's even more important - with the brightest brains from the Times and Sunday Times. You can listen to Hugo on DAB, smart speaker or app 10am-1pm Monday to Friday. If you like what you hear, then read more at http://www.thetimes.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hugo Rifkind unpacks the the politics of the day - and the stuff that's even more important - with the brightest brains from the Times and Sunday Times. You can listen to Hugo on DAB, smart speaker or app 10am-1pm Monday to Friday. If you like what you hear, then read more at&nbsp;<a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.thetimes.com/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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