Hormiga Gonzalez is lighting up Greece, but the real debate is whether everyone is getting way too excited, way too fast. This episode turns that hype into a bigger conversation about Liga MX, Mexican player development, and why some moves abroad become instant myths while others quietly expose the limits of the league.The panel breaks down Ormiga’s brace for Olympiacos, why a goal in the Greek league should not be treated like a Ballon d’Or campaign, and what his transfer really says about the business side of Mexican soccer. They also dig into the reality of Mexican players in Europe, from expectations around top-five leagues to the harsh truth that reputation, representation, and the right agency often matter as much as talent.You’ll also hear sharp reactions to Julián Quiñones’ Ballon d’Or short-list nomination, the frustration around Mexicans getting minutes in Champions League competition, and the ongoing argument over whether Liga MX is actually a proving ground or just a place where players keep recycling back home. The conversation gets even hotter when the panel tackles the state of Chivas, Toluca, Monterrey, Tigres, and the growing tension between media narrative and what is actually happening on the pitch.Then comes the heavyweight debate: El Turco Mohamed and whether his trophy haul makes him one of the greatest coaches in Liga MX history. The episode closes with a deeper look at why Toluca keeps succeeding, how club structure shapes winning cultures, and why the league’s most successful managers always seem to have a system that outlasts the noise.If you care about Liga MX, Mexican exports, or the never-ending soap opera of football discourse, this one is packed with takes, pushback, and plenty of heat. Featuring Jaime, Joel, Ron, Habibi, Abdías, and Hatrick.

Hormiga Gonzalez is lighting up Greece, but the real debate is whether everyone is getting way too excited, way too fast. This episode turns that hype into a bigger conversation about Liga MX, Mexican player development, and why some moves abroad become instant myths while others quietly expose the limits of the league.The panel breaks down Ormiga’s brace for Olympiacos, why a goal in the Greek league should not be treated like a Ballon d’Or campaign, and what his transfer really says about the business side of Mexican soccer. They also dig into the reality of Mexican players in Europe, from expectations around top-five leagues to the harsh truth that reputation, representation, and the right agency often matter as much as talent.You’ll also hear sharp reactions to Julián Quiñones’ Ballon d’Or short-list nomination, the frustration around Mexicans getting minutes in Champions League competition, and the ongoing argument over whether Liga MX is actually a proving ground or just a place where players keep recycling back home. The conversation gets even hotter when the panel tackles the state of Chivas, Toluca, Monterrey, Tigres, and the growing tension between media narrative and what is actually happening on the pitch.Then comes the heavyweight debate: El Turco Mohamed and whether his trophy haul makes him one of the greatest coaches in Liga MX history. The episode closes with a deeper look at why Toluca keeps succeeding, how club structure shapes winning cultures, and why the league’s most successful managers always seem to have a system that outlasts the noise.If you care about Liga MX, Mexican exports, or the never-ending soap opera of football discourse, this one is packed with takes, pushback, and plenty of heat. Featuring Jaime, Joel, Ron, Habibi, Abdías, and Hatrick.

Ep. 525: Hormiga overhyped, Quinones ballon d'or nominee & Turco joins Mt. Rushmore

Join our official discord https://discord.gg/JWGuwMRBMSummer transfer window closes and Erik Lira's move to Monaco falls through. Hormiga's debut at Olympiacos goes wrong. All Liga MX showdown at League's Cup.

Join our official discord https://discord.gg/JWGuwMRBM Summer transfer window closes and Erik Lira's move to Monaco falls through. Hormiga's debut at Olympiacos goes wrong. All Liga MX showdown at League's Cup.

Ep. 524: Liga MX Jornada 6 Recap

Shake off the Sunday Scaries with Cantina MX<ul><li>Hormiga officially joins Olympiacos</li><li>Chivas masterclass vs Tijuana</li><li>Cruz Azul diagnosed with campeonititis</li></ul>

Shake off the Sunday Scaries with Cantina MXHormiga officially joins OlympiacosChivas masterclass vs TijuanaCruz Azul diagnosed with campeonititis

Liga MX Jornada 5 Sunday Wrap Up

Seems like a matter of hours until Hormiga Gonzalez' transfer to Olympiacos is confirmed. We discuss the issues with this move.

Seems like a matter of hours until Hormiga Gonzalez' transfer to Olympiacos is confirmed. We discuss the issues with this move.

Ep. 523: Is Hormiga Gonzalez Moving to Olympiacos?

Liga MX Apertura 2023 League Standings
<ol>
 <li>America</li>
 <li>Monterrey</li>
 <li>Tigres</li>
 <li>Pumas</li>
 <li>Chivas</li>
 <li>Puebla</li>
 <li>San Luis</li>
 <li>Leon</li>
 <li>Santos</li>
 <li>Mazatlan</li>
</ol>
 
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Liga MX Apertura 2023 League Standings America Monterrey Tigres Pumas Chivas Puebla San Luis Leon Santos Mazatlan Merch available at cantinamx.com

Liga MX Apertura 2023 League Standings
<ol>
 <li>America</li>
 <li>Monterrey</li>
 <li>Tigres</li>
 <li>Pumas</li>
 <li>Chivas</li>
 <li>Puebla</li>
 <li>San Luis</li>
 <li>Leon</li>
 <li>Santos</li>
 <li>Mazatlan</li>
</ol>
 
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Ep. 408: Play in time | Apertura 2023

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support us with some merch at cantinamx.com

support us with some merch at <a href="cantinamx.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">cantinamx.com</a>

Ep. 407: Double Jornada action Liga MX

<ul>
 <li>Joel triggered by Santi Gimenez's comments on the Mexican player having issues going to Europe</li>
 <li>Santi set for his Champions League debut</li>
 <li>Liga MX scores</li>
</ul>

Joel triggered by Santi Gimenez's comments on the Mexican player having issues going to Europe Santi set for his Champions League debut Liga MX scores

Ep. 406: Santi Gimenez Hater Club

<ul>
 <li>Post Mexico vs Germany match podcast</li>
 <li>Where was Santi tonight?</li>
 <li>Antuna: The person you hate the most just scored a great goal</li>
 
</ul>
Thanks to everyone who participated in tonight's episode.

Post Mexico vs Germany match podcast Where was Santi tonight? Antuna: The person you hate the most just scored a great goal Thanks to everyone who participated in tonight's episode.

Ep. 405: Mexico & Germany draw 2-2

<ul>
 <li>Paunovic novela continues, Chivas beat Atlas 4-1</li>
 <li>Germany complaining about traveling for the molero tour</li>
 <li>Santi Gimenez hype... please stop</li>
</ul>

Paunovic novela continues, Chivas beat Atlas 4-1 Germany complaining about traveling for the molero tour Santi Gimenez hype... please stop

Ep. 404: Mexicans upset with Germany's comments for upcoming friendly | Santi Hype

Just when things couldn't get any worse, Chivas announced today that Alexis Vega, Chicote Calderon and Raul Martinez have been separated from the 1st team due to disciplinary issues.

Just when things couldn't get any worse, Chivas announced today that Alexis Vega, Chicote Calderon and Raul Martinez have been separated from the 1st team due to disciplinary issues.

Ep. 403: Chivas Crisis Continues | Alexis Vega separated from the team

<ul>
 <li>Mazatlan defeats Chivas 3-1 </li>
 <li>Has Pau lost the locker room?</li>
 <li>Which teams would you bring back to 1st division?</li>
 <li>Santi Gimenez hype</li>
</ul>
<a href="https://youtu.be/eqiwopzVYdg?si=dzjaVNM8Mdz8V0JZ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://youtu.be/eqiwopzVYdg?si=dzjaVNM8Mdz8V0JZ</a>

Mazatlan defeats Chivas 3-1 Has Pau lost the locker room? Which teams would you bring back to 1st division? Santi Gimenez hype https://youtu.be/eqiwopzVYdg?si=dzjaVNM8Mdz8V0JZ

<ul>
 <li>Mazatlan defeats Chivas 3-1 </li>
 <li>Has Pau lost the locker room?</li>
 <li>Which teams would you bring back to 1st division?</li>
 <li>Santi Gimenez hype</li>
</ul>
<a href="https://youtu.be/eqiwopzVYdg?si=dzjaVNM8Mdz8V0JZ" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/eqiwopzVYdg?si=dzjaVNM8Mdz8V0JZ</a>

Ep. 402: Chivas Crisis Center

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Tonight we recap the 4-0 America victory over Chivas. Chivas' sporting director Fernando Hierro speaks and extinguishes some fires. Marcelo Flores makes his Liga MX debut with Tigres but was it the right move?

CantinaMX.com is up! Tag us on social media when your merch arrives. Tonight we recap the 4-0 America victory over Chivas. Chivas' sporting director Fernando Hierro speaks and extinguishes some fires. Marcelo Flores makes his Liga MX debut with Tigres but was it the right move?

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Tonight we recap the 4-0 America victory over Chivas. Chivas' sporting director Fernando Hierro speaks and extinguishes some fires. Marcelo Flores makes his Liga MX debut with Tigres but was it the right move?

Ep. 401: America trounces Chivas 4-0 | Is Paunovic's job in jeopardy?

<ul>
 <li>Thank you for all your support as we celebrate our 400th episode!</li>
 <li>We have officially launched <a href="cantinamx.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">cantinamx.com</a> if you wanna buy some merch!</li>
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Thank you for all your support as we celebrate our 400th episode! We have officially launched cantinamx.com if you wanna buy some merch!

<ul>
 <li>Thank you for all your support as we celebrate our 400th episode!</li>
 <li>We have officially launched <a href="cantinamx.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">cantinamx.com</a> if you wanna buy some merch!</li>
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400th Special Episode

<ul>
 <li>San Luis is super lider</li>
 <li>Julian Quiñones trains with the Mexican national team</li>
 <li>Chivas woes</li>
</ul>

San Luis is super lider Julian Quiñones trains with the Mexican national team Chivas woes

Ep. 399: Match week 7 results

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Built for Mexico fans, we break down Liga MX, El Tri, player drama, front office chaos, and the culture surrounding Mexican fútbol — raw, unfiltered, and community-driven.

We broadcast LIVE every week on Twitter Spaces, where fans take the mic and join the conversation in real time.

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