This episode is raw, honest, and deeply personal. Jen and I share our stories of drug use from two very different perspectives. She was drawn to the highs—seeking energy, confidence, and escape—while I leaned into the lows, using substances to numb pain and quiet the noise within.
On the surface, our struggles looked nothing alike. But underneath, they were rooted in the same place: a desire to cope, to fill something missing, and to find relief from what we didn’t yet have the tools to face.
We open up about what those seasons really looked like—the hidden weight, the identity struggles, and the impact it had on our lives. But this conversation isn’t just about where we’ve been. It’s about how God met us there—not once we had everything together, but right in the middle of the mess.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, ashamed, or like you’ve gone too far to come back, this episode is for you. You’re not alone—you’re not beyond being captured by His grace.