Martha initially went to Rome on a pilgrimage to honor the Jubilee Year — a sacred trip that she and roughly 200 other people from the Archdiocese of New York were invited on by Pope Francis. None of them expected that, days after arrival, they would be paying their final respects to the man who played a pivotal role in the Catholic Church.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan joins Martha to reflect on the life of Pope Francis and celebrate the hope and vitality that lives in the Church, even during this period of mourning. They also discuss the upcoming conclave; a topic Martha and Cardinal Dolan will speak about in depth on Friday's episode of The Untold Story. 

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