In this episode, Roland and Vince talk about the difference between dehumanization and subhumanization and why it matters to the debate about life. They also cover what a famous Seinfeld episode can teach us about the huge difference between healthy relationships and healthy marriages.

In this, the first episode of CareCast, Care Net's podcast, listen to Roland Warren and Vince DiCaro chat about bald eagle eggs, moving boxes, and overturning Roe v Wade in our hearts.